Yes I believe it was loaded on a desktop that I had. Hugs, Andrea M. Breier -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell D. Lynn Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:37 AM To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new I got off the upgrade treadmill a long time ago. New ain't always better: anyone remember Windows ME? -----Original Message----- From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:23 AM To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new I still have xp. And yes, I know XP is dying out. Thing is? I can't afford a back up computer with Windows 7 on it. But by the time I get even close to Windows 7, 8 will be here. So what's the point? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reginald George" <adapt@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > And you should be worried. Someone said Windows 8 is like bolting a > toaster > on to a refrigerator. It's their phone/tablet operating system, and their > desktop operating system, all mashed together. > > I haven't read this anywhere, but I think the new Narrator stole a lot of > it's command structure directly from Voiceover on the Mac because you > can't > patent a keyboard lay-out. I'm glad you can't, but I think it's funny. > Maybe Jim has played with both and can say better. I don't know if the > exact commands are the same, but they use windows alt just like the mac > uses > command and option or whatever, and you have this whole concept of > interacting with elements or not. From the podcast I heard Narrator was > not > working very well on the internet at all, and it was very complicated just > to navigate through web pages on a basic level. Of course updates are > coming out all the time, and it's still in beta. I believe there is > already > a blind windows 8 list, and I'm thinking of joining it. It will all be > very > interesting to watch, but I'm sure in no hurry to switch. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:49 AM > To: 'real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > > The reason I don't have a great deal of faith in MicroSoft's commitment to > accessibility is because of what occurred with their complete failure to > provide accessibility to their most recent Windows operating system on > cell > phones. I'm amazed that, with the new telecommunications access laws in > place, MicroSoft was able to move forward with a completely inaccessible > interface. > > -----Original Message----- > From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Reginald George > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:45 AM > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > > It sounds like at first that we will have access to maybe half of the > operating system. The Metro apps are anyone's guess at this point. The > desktop versions of the apps hopefully will work as before, but there are > no > mirror drivers aloud. So this will effect how Jaws and Windoweyes can > access information in the off screen model such as things they need to > give > the best accessibility. No one knows at this point as the screen readers > are still under development. Someone may have more specific information > than I do. But I'm on the look out for anything real that I can pass on. > I > think it will get much more competitive for FS and GWMicro because we will > have the same level of access as System Access and NVDA and Narrator. No > more, no less, unless I'm totally way off base here. I'm wondering how it > will effect things like basic Office support to lose that ability to > mirror > the video card output. So far no one is talking. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:01 AM > To: 'real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > > And the big question is: What do the changes mean for users of screen > readers? > > Kim > > > > > > > Kimberly A. Morrow, PhD > Communications Specialist > Unity > Message of Hope Ministry > 1901 NW Blue Parkway > Unity Village, MO 64065 > Toll Free: 866-421-3066 > Local: 816-251-3588 > M-F, 7:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. (CT) > > > www.unity.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Reginald George > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:17 PM > To: nutkc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; > accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [real-eyes] Fw: [Windows 8 Security what's new > > FYI > -----Original Message----- > From: peter altschul > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:46 PM > To: Ati > Subject: [ATI] [VICUG-L] Fw: [blindwindows8] Windows 8 Security what's new > > Windows 8 Security: What's New > Windows 8 is a major OS overhaul, but some of the most important additions > might be the ones you can't see. Here's a look at Windows 8's new > security > tools and features. > > By Eric Geier, PCWorld May 17, 2012 9:00 pm > > Windows 8 Security: What's NewThe Start screen is the most obvious change > to > Windows 8, but some of the biggest changes are less apparent. > When Windows 8 comes out later this year, the new Start screen and > Metro-style apps will likely be the first changes you'll notice, but those > aren't the only things that are new. Microsoft is also making some > serious > security enhancements to help keep your system safer and to improve > Windows' > ability to combat viruses and malware. It just may be the biggest > improvement to Windows security yet. > Antivirus Comes Preinstalled > > For the first time in the history of Windows, you'll enjoy protection from > viruses, spyware, Trojan horses, rootkits, and other malware from the very > first day you turn on your Windows PC--without spending a cent. > Windows 8 comes with an updated version of Windows Defender that includes > traditional antivirus functions in addition to the spyware protection and > other security features that it has offered since Windows Vista. Windows > Defender now provides similar protection--and a similar look and feel--to > that of the free Microsoft Security Essentials antivirus program, which > Microsoft has offered to users as an optional download since 2009. > > Windows 8 Security: What's NewThe updated Windows Defender resembles > Microsoft Security Essentials. > > Since Windows Defender will provide at least basic virus and malware > protection, purchasing yearly antivirus subscriptions (such as from McAfee > or Norton) or downloading a free antivirus package (like AVG or > Avast) is optional, whereas before it was pretty much required if you > wanted > to stay virus-free. Of course, you may disable Windows Defender and use > another antivirus utility that promises better protection and more > features, > but at least everyone will have basic protection by default. > Better Download Screening > > When Microsoft released Internet Explorer 9, it updated the browser's > SmartScreen Filter to help detect and block unknown and potentially > malicious programs that you download; the function complements IE's > website > filtering, which works to block phishing and malicious sites. > Starting with Windows 8, the program-monitoring portion of the SmartScreen > Filter is built into Windows itself, and it will work whether you're using > IE, Firefox, Chrome, or any other browser. > > In Windows 8, the first time you run a program that you downloaded from > the > Internet, the SmartScreen Filter checks it against a list of known safe > applications, and alerts you if it's unknown and therefore has the > potential > to be malware. If the alert does pop up, you could then further > investigate > the program (and the source where you downloaded it) before running it. > > Windows 8 Security: What's NewSmartScreen produces an alert if you run an > unknown program. > > Since Microsoft is adding the SmartScreen feature, the company is removing > the previous Security Warning alerts that appeared when you first opened a > downloaded program (the old alert would show the verification status of > the > program publisher and warn you about running programs downloaded from the > Internet). > > This is a welcome change, as it cuts down on the number of alerts you have > to click through--with Windows 8, you'll see an alert only when > something's > amiss. > Faster, More Secure Startup > > Starting with Windows 8, Microsoft will begin to promote a new type of > boot > method, UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface), which improves upon > and replaces the archaic BIOS boot system that most PCs have been using > for > decades. I won't get into the technical details here, but UEFI offers > better security, faster startup times, and a number of other benefits. > > Thanks to this new boot method (and other system enhancements), your PC > will > start up more quickly--in as little as 8 seconds, from the time you press > the power button to when Windows fully loads to the desktop. But you're > sure to appreciate the less noticeable improvements too. > The > Secure Boot feature of UEFI will prevent advanced malware (such as > bootkits > and rootkits) from causing damage, and it will stop other boot loader > attacks (such as malware that loads unauthorized operating > systems) as well. > > Though Windows 8 will work on PCs with the old BIOS boot system, Microsoft > will require new PCs that carry the Windows 8 Certification to use the > UEFI > boot system with the Secure Boot feature enabled by default. This Secure > Boot requirement is causing some concern within the PC industry and among > power users, as it could complicate the process of using Linux > distributions > or dual-booting multiple operating systems. > However, Microsoft has promised to keep boot control in users' > hands, > and the company requires system makers participating in Windows 8 > Certification to offer a way for users to disable the Secure Boot feature > on > PCs (but not on tablets). > Two New Password Types > > Windows 8 introduces two new password types that you can use when logging > in > to your Windows account: a four-digit PIN and a "picture password." > > For the picture password, you choose a photo or image and draw three > gestures (a combination of circles, straight lines, or > taps/clicks) in > different places to create your "password." > > Windows 8 Security: What's New > > Even if you decide to use these new password types, you still must set up > a > regular password. A PIN offers a faster way to log in, and a picture > password gives you a more creative and fun way to do so. > Sometimes you'll have to enter the regular password, such as when you need > administrative approval for changing system settings as a standard user, > but > you can log in to your account using the PIN, the picture, or your regular > password. > Other Noteworthy Defense Measures > > The enhanced Windows Defender, SmartScreen, boot system, and password > protection are the most noticeable security improvements in Windows 8. > But the new OS has even more system enhancements that you won't see at > all. > A few core Windows components (such as the Windows kernel, ASLR, and heap) > have been updated to help reduce common attacks and exploits even further. > -- > > Christopher Hallsworth > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes