In a message dated 5/7/2005 3:51:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, dirk_bonne@xxxxxxxxxx writes: only partly, because it builds up to a climax. On my flevo racer (20inch) it was the rider that set the maximum speed, not the bike. 60kmh is about what I personally feel with (on nice roads, good conditions, etc..). I agree entirely! (really!) and if you look at travel and what we do, the margin between exhilarating and "scary" is often perception and a tiny tiny problem. (though look at the thin line between moving well and disaster! I can tell you stories!) Not that I have become afraid to go fast, My Rans Rocket is very stable at any speed and I really DO want to to tinker with a trike that will go as fast as it can be pushed. I have gone nearly entirely 3 wheels. You see, there is this hill on my way TO and from work. I ride through a Valley with steep sides so BOTH directions I get a nice sweaty workout! Actually I ride up one side of a ridge, descend to the creek and climb the next ridge. Total distance from my home to the top of the second ridge is about 2 miles (3 KM?) On the Vision with the LWB it was a GAS to hurtle down. either direction! (fun on a motorbike too honestly!) Same with the Rans. But on my Trike, it gets a bit.....what, not really frightening, but you breath funny and the trike changes direction. I also have had a bit of difficulty with the coordination of the front brakes. Nothing has happened so far, and it really has not been "dangerous" in any way but I do NOT like the vision that runs through my mind of screaming down the hill and have the trike cartwheel into traffic ! ouch! to say the least! mark come to the Midwest HPV/ Velomobile conference June 11/12 2005 Cedar Rapids, Iowa _http://garvey.trykekidd.com/velopub.html_ (http://garvey.trykekidd.com/velopub.html) Shirt for the conference is at the website below. http://www.zazzle.com/products/product/product.asp?general%5Fcategory%5Fid=103 814463239010772&general%5Fproduct%5Ftype=235&caching=on&product%5Fid=235422661 127401285&index=1