Patrick, The handle bar blocks the view of how you connected everything. I just want to see a clear shot of how you did it. Ken ________________________________ From: Patrick van Gompel <patrick_van_gompel@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 4:43:56 AM Subject: [python] Re: Some News Thank you for your kind replies. Yes, leaving it unpainted is a nice idea. What (other) view of the pivot point are you interested in? The pivot is made of two rod ends, but I covered them with rubber caps. Through the rod ends goes a M12 threaded axle fixed with two nuts and Loctite. Recently somebody told me this was a bit weak, but I think it's ok and I see more people using it. Patrick