[python] Re: Self Centering vs. Wheel Flop

Hej Dirk,

please, can you explain why you see a system with two weightpoints ?
I only see the Center of Gravity (CoG) and can´t understand why the BB should be important. Now, my way to think is to add some weight in the CoG till the frame stabilizes. Then i add the riders weight minus the weight i added before for stabilization. Now i have the weight that produces the Self-Centering-Force (Stabilization-Force). If i loose weight (e.g. loss of gravity because of a deep pothole ;-) ) i loose stabilization force. ( % <-- sign for "python crashed" ?) I hope i am right, when i assume, that it doesn't matter where the rider is placed and where the points are, which transfer the forces to the frame as long as i know where the CoG is. 
What is missing in my system ?

Cheers,
  Stephan
(BTW, i see us sitting in a pub discussing all that flop/effect/force/gravity-stuff and the guys next to us wondering about how worse things alcohol can cause ...) 

dirk.bonne@xxxxxxx wrote:

Yes, Probably better not to give the wheel weight but some extra block
about where the BB is located. There should be two weightpoints: BB and
where the seat is.

Only the distribution (verhältnis) of these weights, and not the
absolute weight should be important though.

Pitty also that the engine cannot do a torus, for the wheels.


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