[pure-silver] Re: warming toner
- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:22:37 -0800
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From: "Eric Neilsen Photography"
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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 8:11 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: warming toner
It doesn't hurt to cover tray when not in use. I use clear
Plexiglas on
trays. Sometimes even when I have a print in the tray I'll
cover it. This
would be true with warm baths for two reasons. It cuts
down on evaporative
cooling and also contains the harmful odor somewhat. I
also make sure these
trays are as close possible to my intake over the sink for
the exhaust
system. After a toning session with particularly stinky
stuff, I'll also
open the door to the outside world to allow for maximum
air in take. It is
on the opposite side of the darkroom from the exhaust
system so no
interaction between them.
As for heating solution, before I had my table top color
processor, I used a
heating element with a rheostat. It would sit in one tub
and I drilled holes
in another an circulated the water between them keeping
the heating element
away from my tray. Glad those days are over. Now when I
brown tone which is
not often, I just heat the water before adding the toner,
and keep a bucket
of warm water using my aquarium heater.
Eric
KBT works at room temperature but takes about five times
as long to tone. I've always used a two tray water bath
arrangement because its simple but recognize that other ways
are better. I have not tried putting a heating pad under the
tray, that might work.
There might actually be an advantage to room temperature
toning if you are toning for image protection rather than
for color change because the amount of toning might be
easier to control.
The combination KBT and KRST toner I posted the formula
for gives full toning in 1 to 3 minutes, depending on the
paper, at room temperature. However, it has a quite strong
rotten egg odor. Of course, you can always tone outdoors
(unless you live where icecicles form on your nose).
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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trays. Sometimes even when I have a print in the tray I'll cover it. This
would be true with warm baths for two reasons. It cuts down on evaporative
cooling and also contains the harmful odor somewhat. I also make sure these
trays are as close possible to my intake over the sink for the exhaust
system. After a toning session with particularly stinky stuff, I'll also
open the door to the outside world to allow for maximum air in take. It is
on the opposite side of the darkroom from the exhaust system so no
interaction between them.
As for heating solution, before I had my table top color processor, I used a
heating element with a rheostat. It would sit in one tub and I drilled holes
in another an circulated the water between them keeping the heating element
away from my tray. Glad those days are over. Now when I brown tone which is
not often, I just heat the water before adding the toner, and keep a bucket
of warm water using my aquarium heater.
Eric
- [pure-silver] Re: warming toner
- From: Eric Neilsen Photography