[pure-silver] Re: warming toner

It doesn't hurt to cover tray when not in use. I use clear Plexiglas on
trays. Sometimes even when I have a print in the tray I'll cover it. This
would be true with warm baths for two reasons. It cuts down on evaporative
cooling and also contains the harmful odor somewhat. I also make sure these
trays are as close possible to my intake over the sink for the exhaust
system. After a toning session with particularly stinky stuff, I'll also
open the door to the outside world to allow for maximum air in take. It is
on the opposite side of the darkroom from the exhaust system so no
interaction between them. 

 

As for heating solution, before I had my table top color processor, I used a
heating element with a rheostat. It would sit in one tub and I drilled holes
in another an circulated the water between them keeping the heating element
away from my tray. Glad those days are over. Now when I brown tone which is
not often, I just heat the water before adding the toner, and keep a bucket
of warm water using my aquarium heater. 

 

 

Eric

 

 

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From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Bower
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:35 AM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: warming toner

 

The smell is nasty (and not good for you) at any temperature. So, besides
having the exhaust fan set on high, I wear a cartridge respirator whenever
toning.

DarkroomMagic wrote:



Doesn't the heat make the smell worse?





Regards



Ralph W. Lambrecht

http://www.darkroomagic.com







On 2005-12-09 23:22, "Jeffrey Thorns"  <mailto:puresilver@xxxxxxxxx>
<puresilver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> KBT will tone faster at 100 degree F than at 72.
> 
> What I used this weekend - which seemed to work very well - is: I 
> took two trays of the same size, put about a quart(?) of 105 degree 
> water in the first one, then laid the toner tray in that tray. You 
> would be surprised how long the lower tray will keep the upper tray 
> warm.
> 
> I don't think it is critical that it be maintained at 100 degrees. 
> You will just notice that toning takes longer as the temp cools.
> 
> The results I got this past weekend were *very* dependent on how long 
> I left the print in the toner. The first minute made very little 
> noticable impact on color. The second minute you started to see the 
> color shift. From the third minute on, the color change was rapid and 
> strong - no subtlety after 3 minutes.
> 
> I used constant agitation, to avoid inconsistancy across the face of 
> the prints. If I pulled the prints after about 90-120 seconds, I got 
> lovely gentle warmth in the lighter tones, while the darker tones had 
> not yet taken much color. After 3-4 minutes, everything is the print 
> was brown.
> 
> Consider turning on an exhaust fan before you set out the toner.
> 
> 
>> I do it at room temperature. What am I missing?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph W. Lambrecht
>> 
>> http://www.darkroomagic.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2005-12-09 21:47, "John Bower"  <mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>  When I tone prints with Kodak Brown Toner, I start with a solution that
>>>  is about 100 degrees F, but it cools down fairly quickly if I have very
>>>  many prints to process. I know I can keep my toning solution warm by
>>>  placing the toner's tray in a larger tray and running warm water into
>>>  the larger tray. But that's a lot of water down the drain, so I'm
>>>  wondering if there is some type of heater available for this purpose.
>>> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
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