jun2805 from Lloyd Erlick, Thanks for all the assistance, folks! It looks like the Epson 4990 is the scanner to look for. I like their model 1680 too, but it's a lot more money. The old 4C transparency adapter covers the full 8.5x14 (legal size) bed. It's a breeze to slap a page of filed negs onto it. I do use medium format (almost exclusively these days). But the 4C does not demand any changes if I change format. Once negs are in filing pages, it makes no difference to the scanner. The Epson 4990 specs say the transparency 'footprint' is 8x10, so putting a page of negs on it will require careful alignment, it seems. Not as bad as contact proofing onto 8x10 sheets of paper under safelight, I suppose. My cursory check into pricing here in Canada indicates the 4990 will cost about CND650 once the taxes are added in. I've only checked online so far, so maybe a better price can be found. A sheet of 8x10 paper for making contacts is approaching a dollar these days, so I guess the scanner will pay for itself after about a thousand rolls of film. Then there is the improved convenience factor, which used to prevent me from making the contact sheets at all! What's that worth in dollars?? I liked the look of the Epson 1680, though. Triple the cost, heavier, more bulk, no one on this list sent me a birthday gift this year so here's your chance! regards, --le p.s. What are opinions on the Umax scanners? Online they seem to have the requisite capabilities. In years gone by I recall many disparagements of Umanx. Is that still the case? ________________________________ Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. voice: 416-686-0326 email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx net: www.heylloyd.com ________________________________ -- At 05:55 AM 6/27/2005 , you wrote: >Well if you know of a cheap consumer grade scanner that has an 11x8.5 transparency adapter on it then please do let us know about it. >If I were Lloyd, and I'm not, I would be thinking that the epson and canon are a fraction of the price the HP 4C cost when new. However, I wouldn't be so bold to say that I know exactly what he needs. For example I don't know if he also does some occasional colour work and may find it useful. I don't know if he also uses medium format. Others may find the specs on the epson and canon worth looking at if they use medium format or large format. Some may find it useful for commercial work. Both of these scanners are aimed at the photographer wanting to scan negs which is why they have transparency adapter lids on them which is exactly what he was asking for. > >rob > >At 26/06/2005 23:15 -0500, you wrote: > >>Lloyd has a specialized request -- the standard answers for the best reasonable >>cost film scanners may not be pertinent -- he wants to replace contact sheets, >>so he doesn't need high resolution -- he definitely doesn't need a dedicated 35 >>mm scanner -- the main thing he needs is one that can scan an 8.5x11 inch >>transparency so that he doesn't have to remove his negs from the filing pages -- >>probably the best solution will be some cheap consumer-grade scanner that is >>rarely discussed on internet photography groups because it doesn't have enough >>resolution to make decent enlargements. >> >>--Michael >> >>On 26-Jun-2005 rob c wrote: >>> The answer depends on who you talk to. >>> >>> the two flatbeds currently being talked about are the epson 4990 and the >>> canon 9900f >>> check out http://www.photo-i.co.uk/ where there are reviews on both. >>> >>> ..... For 35mm negs a dedicated film scanner is a better choice. >>> >>> >>>>June 2605 from Lloyd Erlick >>>> >>>>I've been using a flatbed scanner ...... >>>>Only to replace contact sheets, that is. ..... >>>>easier on the eyes. ..... >>>>I need to be able to scan 8.5x11 neg filing pages without removing >>>>or handling the negs........ > ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.