[pure-silver] Re: other new darkroom
- From: Chris Hinds <chris-hinds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:13:32 +0100
Shannon
You may also want to consider the environmental
effects of using concrete, ie the major impacts
that people tend to associate with concrete are
the use of cement, which is produced in an energy
intensive process, and the extraction of raw
materials such as virgin aggregates. Just a thought!
Having said that, my own darkroom has a concrete
floor with ceramic tiling and is awkward to stand
on for significant periods (for example lith
printing) without some form of anti-fatigue mat.
Chris
At 22:31 30/05/2008, you wrote:
You're right: standing on concrete all day is very exhausting. That's
another reason I am re-thinking the concrete floor idea.
--shannon
On May 30, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Bogdan Karasek wrote:
Hi,
I just want to chime in on the question of a concrete floor in the
darkroom. This is from my personal experience with concrete floors.
I have my darkroom in the basement which has a clearance of 8 feet,
the ceiling is finished (joists and load bearing beams are hidden) as
are the walls but the floor is concrete. When we first moved in here
18 years ago, we kept wondering why it was always so much more dusty
in this house as opposed the previous apartment we lived in. The
basement concrete floor in our new home had been painted but the paint
was peeling and large parts of the concrete were exposed. This was
the source of our dust. So one summer, we emptied the basement and
decided to do the job properly. First, I scrapped off the remainder
of the old paint, washed the concrete floor with muriatic acid, (a
must to have clean concrete) using stiff brooms and rinsing with water
and mops; when dry, the special gray paint for concrete was applied, 3
coats. Since that operation, the dust level has dropped dramatically
and I later installed my first darkroom in the basement and dust is
not a problem. I use the washing tubes in the laundry room to
develop my film, wash my prints, do my toning. Believe me, you do not
want to spend the day standing on a concrete floor..... it's murder
on the feet. My solution was to lay down several sheets of 3/8
plywood in the area where I did most of my standing and covered that
with thick rubber mats, the kind they use in children's playrooms,
they are about 3 feet square and interlock with each other and come in
different colours. Now my feet thank me after a day of darkroom work.
I understand the need to be able to wash the floor if you spill some
chemicals, so much easier to mop a concrete floor, but a wooden floor
will do just as well. And your feet will thank you. ;)
Cheers,
Bogdan
Shannon Stoney wrote:
In addition to packing up and moving my city darkroom, I am thinking
of building one in TN in the country. It will be an outbuilding built
from scratch. Any suggestions? I know you have to have a wet side
and a dry side, and I am a stickler for perfect ventilation, and I
want to have a concrete floor. Other than that I am open to
suggestions.
--shannon
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You're right: standing on concrete all day is very exhausting. That's another reason I am re-thinking the concrete floor idea. --shannon On May 30, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Bogdan Karasek wrote:
Hi, I just want to chime in on the question of a concrete floor in the darkroom. This is from my personal experience with concrete floors. I have my darkroom in the basement which has a clearance of 8 feet, the ceiling is finished (joists and load bearing beams are hidden) as are the walls but the floor is concrete. When we first moved in here 18 years ago, we kept wondering why it was always so much more dusty in this house as opposed the previous apartment we lived in. The basement concrete floor in our new home had been painted but the paint was peeling and large parts of the concrete were exposed. This was the source of our dust. So one summer, we emptied the basement and decided to do the job properly. First, I scrapped off the remainder of the old paint, washed the concrete floor with muriatic acid, (a must to have clean concrete) using stiff brooms and rinsing with water and mops; when dry, the special gray paint for concrete was applied, 3 coats. Since that operation, the dust level has dropped dramatically and I later installed my first darkroom in the basement and dust is not a problem. I use the washing tubes in the laundry room to develop my film, wash my prints, do my toning. Believe me, you do not want to spend the day standing on a concrete floor..... it's murder on the feet. My solution was to lay down several sheets of 3/8 plywood in the area where I did most of my standing and covered that with thick rubber mats, the kind they use in children's playrooms, they are about 3 feet square and interlock with each other and come in different colours. Now my feet thank me after a day of darkroom work. I understand the need to be able to wash the floor if you spill some chemicals, so much easier to mop a concrete floor, but a wooden floor will do just as well. And your feet will thank you. ;) Cheers, Bogdan Shannon Stoney wrote:In addition to packing up and moving my city darkroom, I am thinking of building one in TN in the country. It will be an outbuilding built from scratch. Any suggestions? I know you have to have a wet side and a dry side, and I am a stickler for perfect ventilation, and I want to have a concrete floor. Other than that I am open to suggestions. --shannon====================================================================== =======================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.-- ________________________________________________________________ Bogdan Karasek Montréal, Québec bogdan(at)bogdanphoto.com Canada www.bogdanphoto.com "I bear witness" ________________________________________________________________======================================================================= ======================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.
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