I love Agfa Classic and admit to buying a few boxes more than usual when their demise was apparent. From the calibration work I do for RH Design customers, I see a lot of papers from all over the world, (mostly European and occasionally China. IMHO there were only 3 companies that made good variable contrast papers, Agfa, Kodak and Ilford. By good, I'm referring to long controllable contrast range, as well as good blacks at soft grade settings and most importantly, consistency. I saw evidence of strange tonality at soft grades with many other papers, with portions of the tonal range virtually without contrast. I also could see colour shifts throughout the tonal scale (without toning). Agfa was my preferred choice, since with one paper I could achieve subtle cool or warm tones and its reaction to Selenium was especially useful pictorially. With Agfa and Kodak gone, we are in the hands of Ilford. Their coating plants are more advanced than others (or so I have been led to believe by ex-employees) and you can achieve most things with Multigrade IV and Warmtone together. Straight prints on Fibre are very similar, but for me MG IV takes on a magenta hue in Selenium, hence the reason to switch to Warmtone on selected images. I for one shall be returning to Ilford products once my Agfa paper expires. Regards Chris Woodhouse ARPS www.ktphotonics.co.uk On 17/2/06 23:17, "Shannon Stoney" <sstoney@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I am trying to find a > paper that substitutes for Agfa multigrade FB. Today I tried Forte > polygrade FB, but so far I don't really like it. Maybe I need to try > different dialings on the color head, but the images look sort of > flat to me, with poor separation in the highlights. If I try for > more contrast, they get too dark in the shadows. Also it has an > unpleasant greenish cast to me. I am still using my old Agfa neutol > WA paper developer. Could that be the problem? > > I guess my next attempt will be with Ilford. Ilford paper, Ilford developer. > > Is there any consensus about what paper is closest to Agfa in scale? > I like the Agfa developer and some people say that somebody bought > the right to keep making it, but I am willing to switch. > > --shannon > ============================================================================== > =============================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) > and unsubscribe from there. > ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.