[pure-silver] Re: buying photo stuff on ebay
- From: Ray Rogers <earthsoda@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:35:55 -0700 (PDT)
Interesting. That looks more traditional, in various
ways.
Are there any other alternatives to ebay anyone would
like to suggest?
Ray
--- Sauerwald Mark <mark_sauerwald@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I sometimes purchase and sell via another auction
> site
> (which does not do camera gear) called mastronet.com
>
> With Mastronet, there is an end time for the
> auction,
> but if the last bid came in less than 30 minutes
> before the close of the auction, then the bidding is
> heald open for an additional 30 mins - so like a
> live
> auction, bidding isn't over until everybody has
> agreed
> that the winning bid is higher than they are willing
> to go.
>
> --- Bill Stephenson <photographica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Ray -
> >
> > Ever since I became aware of eBay, I've wished
> that
> > they'd to to what
> > you describe as the "Japanese system". Let's have
> a
> > REAL auction -
> > one that doesn't end until no one will raise the
> > bid. I'm a regular
> > brick-and-mortar auction-goer, and I know that my
> > bid isn't the
> > winning one until the auctioneer pauses, looks
> > around the room one
> > last time, and then says "SOLD". That's the way it
> > should be - honest
> > competition down to the last bid.
> >
> > If eBay were to set itself up so that an auction
> had
> > a "target time"
> > at which it would end - but only after a
> two-minute
> > period of
> > inactivity. Then we could all take part in a real
> > "auction", not a
> > "timed sale" (or something - I don't really know
> > what to call an eBay
> > sale).
> >
> > Until and unless they do this, well...I'll just
> keep
> > on using eBay as
> > it is! <grin>
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> > On May 25, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Ray Rogers wrote:
> >
> > > I could be off track, but my take on this is a
> bit
> > > different.
> > >
> > > I too, felt something odd (and painful!) when
> > suddenly
> > > at the last moment the price shot up... I don't
> > want
> > > to get into (well I guess I do! but I don't have
> > time
> > > to get into) the psychology of it, but I would
> > prefer
> > > an auction where people bid at the start and the
> > price
> > > slowly increases reflecting the true interest of
> > the
> > > bidders... a gentleman's auction so to speak,
> > rather
> > > than the cut -throat/knife in the back one
> chance
> > type
> > > auction that frequently happens.
> > >
> > > That said however, once injured in this manner,
> > the
> > > "gentleman" in me hardened quickly and I have
> had
> > to
> > > resort to similar dirty tricks to get what I
> > really
> > > want... There are now only 3 reasons for not
> > winning
> > > something I really want:
> > >
> > > 1. Forgetting to bid!
> > >
> > > 2. When bidding, Not setting a CRAZY UNREALISTIC
> > OUT
> > > OF CONTACT WITH REALITY "maximum" bid price!
> > >
> > > 3. Waiting to the end before bidding, and then
> > getting
> > > hung up by the technology!
> > >
> > > (In some cases you might get to the last step
> and
> > then
> > > e-bay may inform you the seller has not stated
> he
> > will
> > > accept bids from your country, etc., etc.
> > >
> > > By the way, In Japan, the bidding is done on
> > another
> > > crazy system... once you get used to it, it may
> be
> > > better, but the first time I experienced it I
> > thought
> > > I was hallucinating!
> > >
> > > There, the bid end time is extended about 5 or
> 10
> > > minutes to allow someone to out bid you! (Just
> > when I
> > > thought I had won... the auction was extended
> and
> > > other bids started pouring in! I didn't know
> what
> > to
> > > do, but finally fought back and finally "won"
> the
> > > bidding game.
> > >
> > > I really don't know which is the most peaceful,
> > buyer
> > > friendly "game", but at least with the Japanese
> > method
> > > you have a chance to bid in real time and you do
> > not
> > > have to bid blindly while offering your entire
> > life
> > > savings as insurance that you will win.
> > >
> > > Enough said already too much said.
> > >
> > > Ray Rogers
> > >
> > >
> > > 'Winning' isn't always winning.
> > > J
> > >
> > > "All that glitters isn't all that glitters"
> > > ps
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Georges Giralt <georges.giralt@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bill ,
> > >> If you use a sniper, you will often "win"
> auction
> > >> just doing what you
> > >> want. Bidding early just make the price go high
> > >> because people seeing
> > >> the low price arre tempted to bid on it.
> > Refraining
> > >> to bid up to the
> > >> last minute ensure the price will stay at a
> > minimum
> > >> (if everyone stick
> > >> to this) if it doesn't stay low, you won't
> "win"
> > it
> > >> because it is above
> > >> the threshold you make....
> > >> I was a user of Auction sniper but their prices
> > are
> > >> high, a friend of
> > >> mine gave me bidninja address and I'm delighted
> !
> > >> Try it, it's really fun to get emails saying
> > "you've
> > >> won" and be happy
> > >> to keep your budget OK ;-)!!
> > >> bill harting a écrit :
> > >>> Shannon, I usually do what I think you did on
> > >> Ebay, decide what I'm
> > >>> willing to pay, make the bid and that's that.
> I
> > >> don't sit waiting for
> > >>> the auction to end, and though I have "sniped"
> > my
> > >> rule is not to second
> > >>> guess myself. Until later. I hate to lose
> things
> > >> by a dollar, but who
> > >>> knows how high the winning bidder might have
> > been
> > >> willing to go?
> > >>>
> > >>> Bill
> > >>>
> > >>> Shannon Stoney wrote:
>
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