[pure-silver] Re: buying photo stuff on ebay

Ray -
Ever since I became aware of eBay, I've wished that they'd to to what you describe as the "Japanese system". Let's have a REAL auction - one that doesn't end until no one will raise the bid. I'm a regular brick-and-mortar auction-goer, and I know that my bid isn't the winning one until the auctioneer pauses, looks around the room one last time, and then says "SOLD". That's the way it should be - honest competition down to the last bid.
If eBay were to set itself up so that an auction had a "target time" at which it would end - but only after a two-minute period of inactivity. Then we could all take part in a real "auction", not a "timed sale" (or something - I don't really know what to call an eBay sale).
Until and unless they do this, well...I'll just keep on using eBay as it is! <grin> 

-Bill

On May 25, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Ray Rogers wrote:


I could be off track, but my take on this is a bit
different.

I too, felt something odd (and painful!) when suddenly
at the last moment the price shot up... I don't want
to get into (well I guess I do! but I don't have time
to get into) the psychology of it, but I would prefer
an auction where people bid at the start and the price
slowly increases reflecting the true interest of the
bidders... a gentleman's auction so to speak, rather
than the cut -throat/knife in the back one chance type
auction that frequently happens.

That said however, once injured in this manner, the
"gentleman" in me hardened quickly and I have had to
resort to similar dirty tricks to get what I really
want... There are now only 3 reasons for not winning
something I really want:

1. Forgetting to bid!

2. When bidding, Not setting a CRAZY UNREALISTIC OUT
OF CONTACT WITH REALITY "maximum" bid price!

3. Waiting to the end before bidding, and then getting
hung up by the technology!

(In some cases you might get to the last step and then
e-bay may inform you the seller has not stated he will
accept bids from your country, etc., etc.

By the way, In Japan, the bidding is done on another
crazy system... once you get used to it, it may be
better, but the first time I experienced it I thought
I was hallucinating!

There, the bid end time is extended about 5 or 10
minutes to allow someone to out bid you! (Just when I
thought I had won... the auction was extended and
other bids started pouring in! I didn't know what to
do, but finally fought back and finally "won" the
bidding game.

I really don't know which is the most peaceful, buyer
friendly "game", but at least with the Japanese method
you have a chance to bid in real time and you do not
have to bid blindly while offering your entire life
savings as insurance that you will win.

Enough said already too much said.

Ray Rogers


'Winning' isn't always winning.
J

"All that glitters isn't all that glitters"
ps



--- Georges Giralt <georges.giralt@xxxxxxx> wrote:


Bill ,
If you use a sniper, you will often "win" auction
just doing what you
want. Bidding early just make the price go high
because people seeing
the low price arre tempted to bid on it. Refraining
to bid up to the
last minute ensure the price will stay at a minimum
(if everyone stick
to this) if it doesn't stay low, you won't "win" it
because it is above
the threshold you make....
I was a user of Auction sniper but their prices are
high, a friend of
mine gave me bidninja address and I'm delighted !
Try it, it's really fun to get emails saying "you've
won" and be happy
to keep your budget OK ;-)!!
bill harting a écrit :

Shannon, I usually do what I think you did on

Ebay, decide what I'm

willing to pay, make the bid and that's that. I

don't sit waiting for

the auction to end, and though I have "sniped" my

rule is not to second

guess myself. Until later. I hate to lose things

by a dollar, but who

knows how high the winning bidder might have been

willing to go?


Bill

Shannon Stoney wrote:

I've always thought it was sort of funny that

ebay uses that term,

"win." As in, "You won!" It seems to imply that

you got it for free.

Maybe they should say instead, "You bought it!"

Of course, the desire to "win" is what fuels

bidding I suppose. Next

time I'll wait till near the end to bid. I've

been a seller on ebay

more than I've been a buyer, so I guess I'm sort

of naive about the

buying process.

--shannon


        'Winning' isn't always winning.
             J



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