[pure-silver] Re: Why does B&W Film Scan so poorly
- From: Jordan Wosnick <jwosnick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:14:26 -0500
This is somewhat of an issue with me too. There are two issues, as
described in an earlier post -- grain (the 'x-y axes') and range
(the 'z axis'). I don't think that there are any magic solutions,
but here is what helps me...
In terms of the 'grain issue', you've probably experienced the
apparent "magnification" of grain on scanning the negs versus
printing them conventionally. I have found that my best results are
achieved with fine-grained film-developer combinations, avoiding
'acutance' developers like Rodinal. Probably the best-scanning B&W
combinations I have happened upon are Delta 100 in HC-110 and Efke
25 in Diafine. FP4 Plus in Rodinal looks nasty when scanned (to my
eyes) whereas the same film in more solvent developers (Perceptol,
Diafine, HC-110) works well. I have seen some really excellent
results from Fuji Acros in Xtol, though I have never tried it.
For the 'range issue', it's important not to overdevelop as
scanners have a hard time "reaching in" to dark areas of the
negative. Aiming for a slightly thinner neg than usual would help.
When scanning, I make sure the scanning software does not clip the
dynamic range at all by using the "colour image" mode (e.g. of
Vuescan) intended for scanning colour slides. I then adjust the
levels and curves later.
Another solution, as you and others have mentioned, is to use
colour neg film and desaturate or to use XP2 Super. These films
minimise the 'grain issue' (by not having real silver grains in the
final product) and don't block up easily. But you lose the
convenience of developing B&W at home using simple chemistry.
Hope this helps...
Jordan
Justin F. Knotzke wrote:
> I love B&W. Really, I do. But I am shooting with it less and less
> because it scans horribly. It never looks nearly as good as when I scan
> colour and then desaturate.
>
> Why is that? Any websites with tips on how to improve this? I did
> some searching and only came up with a few replies. At worst, maybe
> someone would be as so kind as to explain to me what B&W scans worse
> then colour.
--
Jordan Wosnick
jwosnick@xxxxxxxxxxx
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