[pure-silver] Re: Weak Blacks
- From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:11:54 -0500
My Durst M605 has an additional filter (besides the YMC) that is
supposed to add a level of contrast beyond normal range. I have not
given that a try.
I thought dichoric filters weren't supposed to go bad.
Elias
On Jan 28, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Eric Neilsen wrote:
Jean, Did you test your Dmax and contrast of your VI against
anything else?
Several years back in was my pleasure to print with both a VI and
an Aristo
VC head mounted on an Omega with a Metrolux II timer. The Aristo
was by far
the better light source in terms of contrast range; both flatter
prints and
prints with more contrast. To that end, I'd also suggest that
anyone with an
older set of filters to also try them against a new set. You might
just find
that you are really operating a 1/2 to a stop or more short of your
papers
maximum range.
Eric
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Weak Blacks
Elias Roustom wrote:
I'm split grade printing a negative - a known problem negative -
going
with Nicholas O's suggestion to use 00 and 5 filters. I've got an
overall
good print. The technique works. My developer is Sprint 1 +9, I'm
using
Ilfrod MG FB - all the variables are in check. I can get the worst
highlights under control with some burning in under the #00 light,
and
the midtones are fine, but I'm missing that little extra zap to the
blacks. If I give a little more time under the #5 light, it gets a
little
too mushy. Is this the new color head not being as punchy as my
condenser? Should I use a stronger developer?
I'm using the Y dichro filter at 120 for the #00, and the M filter
at 130
for the #5.
I do not do split-printing except when making tests of my enlarging
system,
including the paper. I currently use a Zone VI VC (diffusion) head
that has
a green and a blue tube in it and a separate control for each. So I
tested
it by placing a step wedge (Kodak T-14, IIRC) in the enlarger and
adjusted
printing time until the clear strip gave maximum black and the next
step
(net density 0.15 approximately) was just noticeably different from
the max
black. Then I observed how many steps I could get out of the strip.
I did
the same test with the blue light; I got less steps, indicating
greater
contrast. Obviously, because of the way I did the test, I could get
max
black from either all green or all blue light.
I then did a test to see what it would do with mixtures, so I could
determine the settings for various grades in between. I set it up
so I used
the same exposure time for all exposures, and adjusted the aperture
to get
max black for the clear step in the step wedge. I then varied the
lights to
get one stop difference (when I could get it) between settings. The
brightness controls are called SOFT for the green light, and HARD
for the
blue light. They can be turned OFF or set from MIN to MAX, with A
to G in
between. It looks from the chart that I can get all grades, but it
is only
wishful thinking that I really get that last bit of contrast for
grade 5.
ILFORD Multigrade IV; D-72 1+2 2 Minutes 75°F; 22 Sec Exp;
180mm lens; max height.
GRADE SOFT HARD F/ Low step High step Difference
00 MAX OFF 8 1 13 12
0 MAX B- 10 1 12 11
1 MAX F 10 2 12 10
2 MAX MAX 11 2 11 9
3 E MAX 10 3 11 8
4 MIN MAX 9 4 11 7
5 OFF MAX 8 4 10 7
What I have found with MG printing is that the curves are just not
the same
as the curves for graded paper, and I much prefer graded paper,
especially
Kodak Elite Fine Art that has not been available for years. So
negatives
that printed well on Elite does not always print well on MG. I
suppose the
opposite might be true as well, but I have no more Elite to try,
and would
not be inclined to try anymore at this point.
What I suggest is to try to find the minimum exposure you can get
to get max
black from the paper with the densest magenta filter and no yellow
filter
you have; i.e., the highest contrast you can get. I hope that at
that point,
you should get blank highlights. Then gradually add highlights by
printing
some with the yellow filter. Use the minimum exposure with the
yellow filter
you can to fill in the highlights. This might cause you to lose shadow
detail. As you can see from my chart (that you should not blindly
use),
adding soft exposure will increase the density all over, so as you
add soft
exposure, you may wish to reduce the total exposure. In the long
run, you
should make a chard similar to mine using your equipment and
materials. It
is much simpler to do this kind of calibration with a step wedge
than it is
with an image of something you want to print from.
Do not dodge or burn until you get the best possible print you can
without
them.
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