[pure-silver] Re: Wash aid
- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:50:48 -0800
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From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:49 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Wash aid
I did some searching on the web and found the protocol for
using sodium
carbonate as a washing aid.
1. Wash the prints for 10 minutes.
2. Soak the prints for 10 minutes with frequent agitation
in a 1%
solution of sodium carbonate.
3. Wash the prints for an additional 5 minutes.
Jerry
I don't think this will provide an adequate wash.
The purpose of the carbonate bath (Borax or Metaborate
will work as well) is to change the pH of the emulsion.
Sodium sulfite will do the same thing.
Gelatin has the property of taking on the pH of the last
bath its in but has an inherent pH called the isoelectric
point. The pH at the isoelectric point depends on how the
gelatin was made. Most photographic gelatin is slightly on
the acid side of neutral. When the gelatin is on the acid
side of its isoelectric point the electric charges in it
tend to attract thiosulfate ions and bind them. When its on
the alkaline side the charges tend to repel the Thiosulfate
ions. In addition, white alum hardener has a mordanting
effect on thiosulfate. This effect takes place within a
window of pH. When the emulsion is brought above a certain
value (I've forgotten what it is exactly) the mordanting is
eliminated, however, the hardening is lost. This effect, of
couse, does not occur where there is no hardener in the
fixing bath.
If the fixer is neutral, as it can be if no hardener is
used. The carbonate bath becomes unnecessary because at
neutral pH the emulsion is already above the isoelectric
point. The effect of a carbonate bath on washing rate has
been known since at least the mid 1930's.
A carbonate bath will reduce wash times about 50% from
those recommended when a hardening fixer is used. Probably a
brief rinse before use is indicated but a ten minute wash is
not necessary. Wash times after the carbonate, for fiber
paper should be around 1/2 hour for single weight paper and
about 1 hour for double weight paper. It should not be used
for film or RC paper. I think the times given on the
internet are confusions with the Ilford process or something
else.
A plain Sodium sulfite bath of about 2% will give nearly
the same effect as Kodak wash aid. Kodak's product is
buffered to neutral. This has the advantage of eliminating
the mordanting effect of alum hardener without destroying
all the hardening and of leaving the emulsion close to its
minimum swelling. The sequestering agents are probably
necessary only if the solution is used more than once, but
may also have some additional effect on wash rate, I am not
sure of this.
In any case, I suggest the use of Sulfite rather than
carbonate. The wash times should be similar to those
recommended by Kodak for KHCA. Kodak recommends a brief
rinse to increase the capacity of the wash aid (of no
relevance where its used one-shot) A treatment time of
between 1 and 3 minutes in the wash aid depending on the
material, and a final wash of 5 minutes for film, 10 minutes
for single weight paper, and 20 minutes for double weight
paper. These times were evidently worked out with knowledge
of the protective effect of a very small residue of
thiosulfate. Toning is a very much more effective means of
image protection. If the longest life, and greatest
protection from oxidation and sulfiding is to had some
change in the appearance of the print will have to be
tollerated. Kodak Brown Toner and similar polysulfide
toners, will provide considerable protection when with only
partial toning. Kodak selenium toner will not provide
adequate protection when used at high dilutions (1:19) but
will when toning is carried out with stronger solutions to
the point where there is a definite color change. (My source
for this is Dr. Nishimura at IPI). Gold toner also provides
excellent image protection and its bluish color shift may be
more acceptable for some images, but its expensive.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sodium Sulfite has another effect, which is not
duplicated by Carbonate, namely, it is an ion exchanger and
actually displaces Thisosulfate ions from the emulsion, and
to a lesser extent, from the fiber base.
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