[pure-silver] Re: Was Ilford -- Sulfide toners?

I was told that myth years ago and never challenged it, but selenium prints
do bleach and tone in a sulfide toner.  You can tone in either order but the
colors will be different and the cross toning will be different. 

I suggest mixing a bleach at a much high density of Pot Ferri. than a
standard Kodak bleach package. I don't have my formulas here, but will post
tomorrow if requested.  Graded papers tone differently than multigrade
papers, and colors will change with addition of optical brighteners. 

Why two toners and Why selenium at all? Selenium tones dmax areas first,
whereas sulfide toners act on the light areas. And the whole color of the
print issue. Selenium will also bleach the high lights so you not only get a
deeper dmax but a brighter white. 

  

Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
214-827-8301
http://ericneilsenphotography.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philippe Gauthier
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:16 PM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Was Ilford -- Sulfide toners?
> 
> jeffrey a écrit :
> 
> >> These two toners are very different in many aspects
> (resulting image
> >> color,
> >> chemistry, application and protection) but can be used
> together to
> >> complement each other. What info would you require?
> >
> >
> > So, how do you use them together? In a single bath (mixed
> together),
> > or one after the other in separate baths?
> >
> > I have done the latter (with Sepia) and gotten a nice effect,
> though
> > not one I would want to see ALL the time.
> 
> The procedure is the following:
> 
> 1. Make sure your print is wet
> 2. bleach for 2-3 minutes in ferricyanide
> 3. rinse thoroughly (the orange ferricyanide is difficult to
> wash)
> 4. tone in sodium sulfide about one minute
> 5. rinse
> 6. tone in selenium (KRST 1:8 for 5 minutes does a good toning
> job)
> 7. wash
> 8. dry
> 
> In short, you do the normal sepia procedure first and a normal
> selenium
> bath second. Don't do the opposite; a well selenium toned print
> doesn't
> bleach at all in ferricyanide and therefore doesn't redevelop
> in sodium
> sulfide.
> 
> PG
> 
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