actually I underprint. When you selenium tone it will darken the image. The potassium Ferricynide in this instance really doesn't bleach it out. Do what you normally do for your prints you intend to selenium tone. Robert Krawiec <robk64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Do you over-print a little for this? 1/4 stop maybe? Or perhaps give the print an extra 10-20% exposure at low contrast filter to protect highlights? Rob --- Agnes wrote: > easiest way to get the nice chocolate browns in > toning is a two step process. First selenium tone > it as you would normally do. Then place it in a > tray (yes dunk the complete sheet in the tray) of > dilute potassium ferricynide. let it sit there for > a few minutes. It will turn a funky orange color. > Do not let this throw you. to stop the action rinse > well then put it in a tray of fix. Wash as you > would normally do. Once it comes out of the wash (I > would do mine for 40 to 60 minutes in running water, > I also used fiber paper) It would look a little > washed out but a darker brown. When it dries, it is > the most lucious chocolate brown tone. Experiment > with some test prints first so you can get the > desired effects down for your particular needs. It > really is easy. I stumbled on it after a Bruce > Barnbaum workshop where he warned us not to do > selective bleaching after selenium toning. > > Aggie > > Robert Krawiec wrote: > I've never really been able to get the chocolate > browns with polysulfide toners, so would be > interested > to know if their toner works. > > Also try lith printing on Bergger warmtone or Forte > Polywarmtone and toning that in selenium. > > Rob > > --- Jeffrey Thorns > wrote: > > > Just an FYI - I emailed the Formulary to see what > > they would recommend. Here is their reply; > > > > *************************************** > > > > > > Hi Jeffrey, > > > > You are in luck I have just the toner for you. I > > have attached the instructions for the > > Polysulfide toner. It will give you the warm > > chocolaty browns that you are looking for. > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > > > Thanks > > Sherry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey > Thorns" > > > > To: "Photographer's Formulary" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:36 PM > > Subject: Re: Question about toner > > > > >The lead-gold combination sounded interesting - > no > > other reason. > > > > > >I'm really looking for a toner that yields a > > >chocolate brown tone - not like sepia at all. > > >Not reddish. Not purple. > > > > > >I remember printing on the old Agfa Portriga > > >paper - very nice warm tone. Beautiful paper. I > > >can't get that paper anymore, so I am looking to > > >toning to give me that feel. Ilford MG RC > > >Warmtone is a nice paper, but needs toning to > > >push it into a subtle brown color. > > > > > >Thank you for your advice. > > > > > >>Hi Jeffrey > > >>I am not sure about the paper you are planning > > >>to tone and why you are looking at the POP Lead > > >>Toner. That toner is made for POP paper. What > > >>are you trying to accomplish with the toner? > > >>Sherry > > >> > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey > > Thorns" > > >>To: > > >>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:22 AM > > >>Subject: Question about toner > > >> > > >>>Would your FORMULARY POP LEAD-GOLD COMBINED > > >>>TONER-FIXER work fine with RC paper? > > >>> > > >>>I use a lot of the Ilford MG RC Warmtone paper > > >>>and was wondering if the long time in this > > >>>fixer/toner would be too long for an RC paper. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Thanks > > > > > > > > > Attachment converted: Pyro:06-0190.pdf (PDF /«IC») > > (0002F350) > > > ============================================================================================================To > > unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org > > and logon to your account (the same e-mail address > > and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and > > unsubscribe from there. > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email > Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > > ============================================================================================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the > same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.