Do you over-print a little for this? 1/4 stop maybe? Or perhaps give the print an extra 10-20% exposure at low contrast filter to protect highlights? Rob --- Agnes <frcontrone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > easiest way to get the nice chocolate browns in > toning is a two step process. First selenium tone > it as you would normally do. Then place it in a > tray (yes dunk the complete sheet in the tray) of > dilute potassium ferricynide. let it sit there for > a few minutes. It will turn a funky orange color. > Do not let this throw you. to stop the action rinse > well then put it in a tray of fix. Wash as you > would normally do. Once it comes out of the wash (I > would do mine for 40 to 60 minutes in running water, > I also used fiber paper) It would look a little > washed out but a darker brown. When it dries, it is > the most lucious chocolate brown tone. Experiment > with some test prints first so you can get the > desired effects down for your particular needs. It > really is easy. I stumbled on it after a Bruce > Barnbaum workshop where he warned us not to do > selective bleaching after selenium toning. > > Aggie > > Robert Krawiec <robk64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've never really been able to get the chocolate > browns with polysulfide toners, so would be > interested > to know if their toner works. > > Also try lith printing on Bergger warmtone or Forte > Polywarmtone and toning that in selenium. > > Rob > > --- Jeffrey Thorns > wrote: > > > Just an FYI - I emailed the Formulary to see what > > they would recommend. Here is their reply; > > > > *************************************** > > > > > > Hi Jeffrey, > > > > You are in luck I have just the toner for you. I > > have attached the instructions for the > > Polysulfide toner. It will give you the warm > > chocolaty browns that you are looking for. > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > > > Thanks > > Sherry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey > Thorns" > > > > To: "Photographer's Formulary" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:36 PM > > Subject: Re: Question about toner > > > > >The lead-gold combination sounded interesting - > no > > other reason. > > > > > >I'm really looking for a toner that yields a > > >chocolate brown tone - not like sepia at all. > > >Not reddish. Not purple. > > > > > >I remember printing on the old Agfa Portriga > > >paper - very nice warm tone. Beautiful paper. I > > >can't get that paper anymore, so I am looking to > > >toning to give me that feel. Ilford MG RC > > >Warmtone is a nice paper, but needs toning to > > >push it into a subtle brown color. > > > > > >Thank you for your advice. > > > > > >>Hi Jeffrey > > >>I am not sure about the paper you are planning > > >>to tone and why you are looking at the POP Lead > > >>Toner. That toner is made for POP paper. What > > >>are you trying to accomplish with the toner? > > >>Sherry > > >> > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey > > Thorns" > > >>To: > > >>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:22 AM > > >>Subject: Question about toner > > >> > > >>>Would your FORMULARY POP LEAD-GOLD COMBINED > > >>>TONER-FIXER work fine with RC paper? > > >>> > > >>>I use a lot of the Ilford MG RC Warmtone paper > > >>>and was wondering if the long time in this > > >>>fixer/toner would be too long for an RC paper. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Thanks > > > > > > > > > Attachment converted: Pyro:06-0190.pdf (PDF /«IC») > > (0002F350) > > > ============================================================================================================To > > unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org > > and logon to your account (the same e-mail address > > and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and > > unsubscribe from there. > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email > Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > > ============================================================================================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the > same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.