[pure-silver] Re: Toner for chocolate brown tone
----- Original Message ----- From: "Agnes" <frcontrone@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Toner for chocolate brown tone
Richard I just read and accidentally deleted the second post you made. You are following more what is a sepia type of toner. What I did was take a regular print. I selenium toned it first. I let it go to just right before it would turn that weird eggplant purple. Then I stuck it into a tray of dilute potassium ferricynide. It did not bleach at all. It just turned a funky bright dark orange. I didn't redevelope it. I just washed it from that point. It was during the washing that the color turned the rich dark chocolate brown. We are using different methods and different chemicals. I'm for what ever works for a person. Toning is a fun thing to experiment with. Takes me back to the flames tests in chem classes.I've been wondering if some of the other metals from those same flame tests would produce some interesting colors. 

 Aggie
Well, Humph, Deleted Indeed, You will just have to live forever with the frustration of not knowing what golden wisdom I condecended to annoint the list with. Now, now, now, no one tell her... Well, I relent. The better side of my nature just came in with a couple of barbecued baby back ribs. I feel so much better now. I was just reporting that my experiment was indefinite. I bleached a print on Kentmere RC paper using a solution of diluted Iodine (from the drugstore) and redeveloped it in a mixture of KBT and KRST with added Carbonate. This is a formula from the late 1950's which is supposed to be something like Polytoner. The result was a reddish brown, something like what a POP print looks like while it is printing. Actually, it was not much different than the color I get from this toner when used directly on the print. So, Iodine certainlly works as a bleach for toning, I'm just not sure it has any advantages and certainly did not give me a color anywhere near what you want. This was a very makeshift test of a technique with a great many variations so I don't know how meaningful it is. 

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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