[pure-silver] Re: Stand developing
- From: "Gene Johnson" <genej2@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:08:34 -0700
Works awesome on the roll film though.
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From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:21 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Stand developing
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From: "jeffrey" <puresilver@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Stand developing
Well, I gave it a shot - Rodinal 1:100 for 30 min. at about 72 deg.
Strong agitation for the first 30-40 sec., then let it sit.
Most of the frames turned out OK (if a bit thinner than expected), but a
few frames (with wide expanses of clear sky) showed sprocket-hole
streaks. Not pronounced, but enough to ruin the frame. Seemed
inconsistant thru the roll.
Not sure what to think.
The sprocket hole streaks are typical of stagnant development. There is
some convection of the reaction products of development when the film is
vertical in the bath. Since there is no development going on at the
sprocket holes there are not reaction products produced so there will be
an area under them that is somewhat higher in density than in the adjacent
spaces. The effect is present all over the film but may not be noticable
where there are not small, well defined, areas of significantly high or
low density. You will find the opposite adjacent to small, dense
highlights, where there will be streaks of lower development due to
bromide.
Generally stagnant or stand development is done with the film
horizontal. The reaction products accumulate in the vicinity of the
development then and the effect is of lowered density of highlights and
exagerated adjacency effects, which are controlled by diffusion in the
emulsion.
Stand development can be useful for some special effects but IMO is not
good general practice. Frankly, I think Danny was lucky.
Nonetheless, the pictures are excellent.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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----- Original Message ----- From: "jeffrey" <puresilver@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Stand developing
Well, I gave it a shot - Rodinal 1:100 for 30 min. at about 72 deg. Strong agitation for the first 30-40 sec., then let it sit.The sprocket hole streaks are typical of stagnant development. There is some convection of the reaction products of development when the film is vertical in the bath. Since there is no development going on at the sprocket holes there are not reaction products produced so there will be an area under them that is somewhat higher in density than in the adjacent spaces. The effect is present all over the film but may not be noticable where there are not small, well defined, areas of significantly high or low density. You will find the opposite adjacent to small, dense highlights, where there will be streaks of lower development due to bromide.
Most of the frames turned out OK (if a bit thinner than expected), but a few frames (with wide expanses of clear sky) showed sprocket-hole streaks. Not pronounced, but enough to ruin the frame. Seemed inconsistant thru the roll.
Not sure what to think.
Generally stagnant or stand development is done with the film horizontal. The reaction products accumulate in the vicinity of the development then and the effect is of lowered density of highlights and exagerated adjacency effects, which are controlled by diffusion in the emulsion.
Stand development can be useful for some special effects but IMO is not good general practice. Frankly, I think Danny was lucky.
Nonetheless, the pictures are excellent.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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