[pure-silver] Re: Sepia Toners
- From: Bogdan Karasek <bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:09:12 -0500
Hello Richard,
Once again, Thanks for the added sepia toners and the formulas.
As soon as I get the extra chemicals these toners require, I'll give
them a try.
Regards,
Bogdan
Richard Knoppow wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bogdan Karasek" <bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:41 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Sodium Hydroxide = Red Devil Lye
Hello Richard,
The formula for the Sepia toner is from the "digitaltruth.com" site,
under technical data section where they list 130 darkroom formulas;
second down from the "massive dev chart". They have one formula for
Sepia toner..... that's the one I want to try.
I'm trying to find a replacement for the Kodak Sepia Toner that was
discontinued. Kodak now only sells Sepia toner II which I don't like.
Cheers,
Bogdan
I am once again in posession of some reference material. In fact,
its a new (to me) 1945 edition of the _Photo-Lab-Index_ I picked up
today at a swap meet here. This one seems to have been updated for a
time but most of the original material is still there.
There are some intersting toning formulas in it, a couple that I
don't remember seeing before. I am posting a couple of bleach and
redevelop formulas because Bogdan asked about this type of toner. None I
can find here use sodium hydroxide.
Kodak published several Sepia toner formulas but only one is for
paper. The others are for motion picture prints or lantern slides.
Perhaps these would also work for paper.
Kodak T-7a Sepia Toner
Stock Bleaching Solution A
Potassium ferricyanide 75.0 grams
Potassium bromide 75.0 grams
Potassium oxalate 195.0 grams
Acetic acid, 28% 40.0 ml
Water to make 2.0 liters
Stock Redeveloping Solution B
Sodium sulfide, desiccated 45.0 grams
Water to make 500.0 ml
Prepare bleaching bath as follows:
Stock solution A 500.0 ml
Water 500.0 ml
Prepare redeveloper as follows:
Stock solution B 125.0 ml
Water to make 1.0 liter
Bleach until there is only a faint trace of the halftones remains and
the black of the shadows has disappeared. Then rinse thoroughly in cold
water. This should take about one minute.
Then redevelop in in the redeveloper. This should take about 30 seconds.
Wash toned prints for about 30 minutes in running water.
Note: The instructions require a hardening bath following
re-development. Some modern papers may still need this, others will not.
The hardener recommended is the stock hardener for Kodak F-1 fixer
diluted 1:16
Defender Re-Development Sepia Toner 4-T
Bleaching Solution
Water 1.0 liter
Potassium ferricyanide 13.7 grams
Potassium bromide 27.4 grams
Strong ammonia water (28%) 1.3 ml
Re-Developing Solution
Sodium sulfide, saturated solution* 7.8 ml
Potassium alum, saturated solution** 1.0 liter
*To make as saturated solution of sodium sulfide dissolve 15.0 grams of
the sulfide, fused, or 42.0 grams of sodium sulfide, crystals, in 100.0
ml of water at 65F.
**To make a saturated solution of alum dissolve 100.0 grams of alum in
1.0 liter of water at 68F.
To use bleach prints in the bleacher until the image is only faintly
visible. Then wash until all traces of yellow stain are removed.
Then redevelop in the redeveloping solution until the image is
completely redeveloped. Then wash thoroughly and dry.
Prints on rough surface paper should be dried before bleaching.
Ansco (Agfa) 221 Sepia Toner
Solution 1 (Bleach)
Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml
Potassium ferricyanide 50.0 grams
Potassium bromide 10.0 grams
Sodium carbonate, monohydrated 20.0 grams
Water to make 1.0 liter
Solution 2 (Redeveloper)
Sodium sulfide, desiccated 45.0 grams
Water to make 500.0 ml
For use as described below dilute 1 part solution 2 with 8 parts water.
Bleach in the bleaching solution until the image is converted to a
very light brown color (should take about 1 minute). Then wash for about
10 to 15 minutes and redevelop in solution 2 (re-developer).
Redevelopment should take about 1 minute. After toning prints should be
washed for about 30 minutes. If the toner leaves sediment which results
in finger marks or streaks on the print it should be immersed for a few
seconds in a 3% solution of acetic acid after which a 10 minute wash is
necessary.
3% is about double the strength of a normal stop bath.
These are what I have on hand at the moment.
I do not know what the purpose of the oxalate in the Kodak formula is
for.
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bogdan Karasek" <bkarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:41 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Sodium Hydroxide = Red Devil Lye
Hello Richard,The formula for the Sepia toner is from the "digitaltruth.com" site, under technical data section where they list 130 darkroom formulas; second down from the "massive dev chart". They have one formula for Sepia toner..... that's the one I want to try.I'm trying to find a replacement for the Kodak Sepia Toner that was discontinued. Kodak now only sells Sepia toner II which I don't like.Cheers, Bogdan
I am once again in posession of some reference material. In fact, its a new (to me) 1945 edition of the _Photo-Lab-Index_ I picked up today at a swap meet here. This one seems to have been updated for a time but most of the original material is still there. There are some intersting toning formulas in it, a couple that I don't remember seeing before. I am posting a couple of bleach and redevelop formulas because Bogdan asked about this type of toner. None I can find here use sodium hydroxide. Kodak published several Sepia toner formulas but only one is for paper. The others are for motion picture prints or lantern slides. Perhaps these would also work for paper.
Kodak T-7a Sepia Toner Stock Bleaching Solution A Potassium ferricyanide 75.0 grams Potassium bromide 75.0 grams Potassium oxalate 195.0 grams Acetic acid, 28% 40.0 ml Water to make 2.0 liters Stock Redeveloping Solution B Sodium sulfide, desiccated 45.0 grams Water to make 500.0 ml Prepare bleaching bath as follows: Stock solution A 500.0 ml Water 500.0 ml Prepare redeveloper as follows: Stock solution B 125.0 ml Water to make 1.0 literBleach until there is only a faint trace of the halftones remains and the black of the shadows has disappeared. Then rinse thoroughly in cold water. This should take about one minute.
Then redevelop in in the redeveloper. This should take about 30 seconds. Wash toned prints for about 30 minutes in running water.Note: The instructions require a hardening bath following re-development. Some modern papers may still need this, others will not. The hardener recommended is the stock hardener for Kodak F-1 fixer diluted 1:16
Defender Re-Development Sepia Toner 4-T Bleaching Solution Water 1.0 liter Potassium ferricyanide 13.7 grams Potassium bromide 27.4 grams Strong ammonia water (28%) 1.3 ml Re-Developing Solution Sodium sulfide, saturated solution* 7.8 ml Potassium alum, saturated solution** 1.0 liter*To make as saturated solution of sodium sulfide dissolve 15.0 grams of the sulfide, fused, or 42.0 grams of sodium sulfide, crystals, in 100.0 ml of water at 65F.
**To make a saturated solution of alum dissolve 100.0 grams of alum in 1.0 liter of water at 68F.
To use bleach prints in the bleacher until the image is only faintly visible. Then wash until all traces of yellow stain are removed. Then redevelop in the redeveloping solution until the image is completely redeveloped. Then wash thoroughly and dry.
Prints on rough surface paper should be dried before bleaching.
Ansco (Agfa) 221 Sepia Toner
Solution 1 (Bleach)
Water (at 125F or 52C) 750.0 ml
Potassium ferricyanide 50.0 grams
Potassium bromide 10.0 grams
Sodium carbonate, monohydrated 20.0 grams
Water to make 1.0 liter
Solution 2 (Redeveloper)
Sodium sulfide, desiccated 45.0 grams
Water to make 500.0 ml
For use as described below dilute 1 part solution 2 with 8 parts water.
Bleach in the bleaching solution until the image is converted to a
very light brown color (should take about 1 minute). Then wash for about
10 to 15 minutes and redevelop in solution 2 (re-developer).
Redevelopment should take about 1 minute. After toning prints should be
washed for about 30 minutes. If the toner leaves sediment which results
in finger marks or streaks on the print it should be immersed for a few
seconds in a 3% solution of acetic acid after which a 10 minute wash is
necessary.
3% is about double the strength of a normal stop bath. These are what I have on hand at the moment.I do not know what the purpose of the oxalate in the Kodak formula is for.
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