[pure-silver] Re: Selenium toning inconsistancy

  • From: daniel <daniel.bouzard@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:51:48 +0200

Richard there nothing secret , formula are free for every body if it could be useful. What I am doing is the following: 10ml of 10% (10g /100ml) sodium hydroxyde

   1ml Viradon
   2ml of Sélénium ( from Moersch )
   1l of water

I put first the print in the solution for 15 sec to 2min depending of the papers ( 15sec for Foma 131 or old Foma polywarmtone or Bergger CB - 1 to 2 min for Ilford Warmtone or new Bergger CB - more than 2min for cold papers like Ilford multigrade or Galerie ) then the print is going to running water at 40- 45°C for 2min. If the result is OK the print is put to a 10% sulfite solution for 2 min and then washed, if not you can repeat until you get what you want.


Richard Knoppow a écrit :


----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel" <daniel.bouzard@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:03 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Selenium toning inconsistancy


Hello,

I usually used for subbtle tonings a very diluted combination of Viradon ( "new") and sélénium with sodium hydroxyde as base. I have found that sodium carbonate is not an enough strong base and cause staining in some case. The print is put in the diluted solution for 1 or several minutes and then washed with running hot water at 40-45°C. This can be repeated until the wanted effect. Doing this it is possible to get subtle colour in the hight lights and increased contrast in the blacks. It is more pronounced with warm papers.

Richard Knoppow a écrit :

I didn't encounter staining but Ryuji Suzuki reported getting bad staining from the combination toner. I don't know why. I've mixed it using both old and brand new KRST stock with no difference. I also found it to work very quickly at room temperature. Not sure what it happening there because Kodak Brown Toner usually works very slowly, fifteen or twenty minutes, unless heated to about 100F where it works in a few minutes. There is a lot about this toner I don't understand. Note that I used a sulfite or Kodak Hypo Cleaing Agent rinse after toning KHCA is mostly sodium sulfite. The rinse almost instantly clears the yellow stain on the prints. I soak them for perhaps two or three minutes and then wash. Mostly I have toned pretty much all the way, the mixture works pretty fast for partial toning. Kodak published a couple of variations on the formula supposedly to produce different colors so its evident that the formula can stand a lot of modification. It would be intersting to know some details about what you use, if its not a secret. New Viradon is a polysulfide toner similar to Kodak Brown Toner. The original Viradon was a combination of polysulfide and selenium similar to Kodak Polytoner an similar (but not identical I think) to the stuff produced by the formulas made public by Kodak.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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