[pure-silver] Re: Polaroid to stop making instant film
- From: Les Myers <baroque-2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:32:50 -0800
I, too, am chagrined about the Polaroid news. I have a box of 4x5 Type 53 that
I use, admittedly- because of its cost - sparingly. But I love the tones and
"uniqueness" of each print. If Polaroid includes this in their cuts, I hope
some manufacturer will take on its production.
Les Myers
> From: "Bob Rosen" <afterswift@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Polaroid to stop film manufacture
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:11:32 -0800
>
> Sad news but hardly surprising . . .
>
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7236106.stm
>
>
> -Aaron
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The irony is that Polaroid is about the closest medium we had for
> straight
> photography.
> Sure, there were exotic ways to play around with modifying the image,
> using
> time and temperatures different from the factory specs, but when the film
> was used as directed the images were purely photographic.
>
> I used the Pack camera film types. I think 109 was a positive/negative
> stock
> that produced B&W prints and a high quality negative.
>
> I think Polaroid was among the first outfits to offer 35mm negative
> scanners. I don't know why they left the field. Polaroid will now market
> digital cameras. However, they'll license their patents to any outfit
> that
> wants to continue to make original Polaroid film.
>
> Frankly, I think that the high price of Polaroid film discouraged folks
> from
> buying it. And Pack film wasn't available at most consumer outlets. I
> hope
> Polaroid will rise again.
>
> Bob
>
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:08:44 -0800
> From: "Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Polaroid to stop film manufacture
>
> Aaron Reece wrote:
>> Sad news but hardly surprising . . .
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7236106.stm
>>
>> -Aaron
>
> It wasn't that many weeks ago that we asked Kodak
> if they still made their film in-house (they answered yes).
>
> Dana
>
>
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>
> From: joe mcguckin <joe@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Polaroid to stop film manufacture
> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:02:52 -0800
>
> Dana,
>
> Actually, I think I asked the question: "Does Polaroid still make its
> own film?"
>
> I wanted to know because after the bankruptcy and the acquisition, the
> new owners of polaroid were selling off or
> closing every manufacturing division. They were also licensing the
> 'Polaroid' trademark to anyone willing to pay. It led to some
> strange and comical products with a Polaroid brand: DVD players,
> batteries, CF cards - even Polaroid branded 35mm film.
>
> Perhaps Harmon or Fuji will be interested in picking up the Polaroid
> manufacturing lines. Polaroid has a plant in the Netherlands,
> maybe that would be a good fit for Harmon? Polaroid is closing 4 or 5
> plants worldwide. Perhaps current and projected demand
> would be enough to keep one or two plants operating at profitable
> volumes...
>
> Joe
>
>
> Joe McGuckin
> ViaNet Communications
>
> joe@xxxxxxx
> 650-207-0372 cell
> 650-213-1302 office
> 650-969-2124 fax
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Dana H. Myers wrote:
>
>> Aaron Reece wrote:
>>> Sad news but hardly surprising . . .
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7236106.stm
>>> -Aaron
>>
>> It wasn't that many weeks ago that we asked Kodak
>> if they still made their film in-house (they answered yes).
>>
>> Dana
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> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:07:20 -0800 (PST)
> From: Charlie Thorsten <charlie_thorsten@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Polaroid to stop film manufacture
>
> I suppose this means the end of large-format films
> such as Type 52 and Type 55 P/N. I guess I'm as
> guilty as anyone...I've only used these two films
> sparingly. But I loved the results.
>
> I hope Kodak keeps making Tri-X and TMX100.
>
> -Charlie
>
>
> --- Aaron Reece <oboeaaron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Sad news but hardly surprising . . .
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7236106.stm
>>
>> -Aaron
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:09:45 -0800
> From: "Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Polaroid to stop film manufacture
>
> Hello joe,
>
>> Dana,
>>
>> Actually, I think I asked the question: "Does Polaroid still make its
>> own film?"
>
> Yes, you did, and I made an error in my note - a thinko - my apologies.
> It was Polaroid we asked - and they honestly answered that they still
> made film in their own factories. Even as they were certainly far into
> plans to close those factories :-(.
>
> Dana
>
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> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:34:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mark Blackwell <mblackwell1958@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: D2 filters update
>
> I may have a go of it, but we will see what happens. Looks like it might
> have a heat resistant glass, with the fan cooling, but that won't stop
> fading of gels. It will help, but not stop. Now if I could figure out a
> way to make the modern filters work. They will cost in all likelyhood as
> much as a new enlarger with the more modern head. Picking up one from
> someone going digital shouldn't be that hard to do. Considering my time,
> it is probably the right thing to do. Its just the cash that's the
> problem at the moment. A color head or VC head that will fit the D2
> frame is a possibility, but the ideal situation would be another D2 with
> a color head being dumped by someone going digital that had the same
> frame so I would have a spare for parts if needed later.
> Now I would disagree with you on the contrast filter below the lens not
> affecting the image at all. May not be significant, but that gel cost a
> quarter or so maybe to make. You don't spend hundreds and maybe
> thousands of dollars for a camera lens to put a filter on the front that
> cost a quarter. Moving that filter above the negative carrier keeps the
> image from being projected through that 25 cent filter. The light is
> modified before the image is created so it can't be affected.
>
>
>
> "Nicholas O. Lindan" <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: "Mark Blackwell"
>
>> No one seems to have them. I have only a couple of choices.
>
> That was my memory of it.
>
>> The next option I might try if I anyone has ever taken one of
>> these beasts apart, is cutting my own.
>
> At some time some pictures of a filter replacement job were on
> the 'net. I can't find them...
>
> If the alternative is chuck the head and get a new one you
> may as well take a crack at it. Or give it to someone willing
> to make a go of it. The things are still worth money when in
> good working condition.
>
>> Still this seems more trouble than its worth
>
> What's a replacement head cost, what's time worth?
>
>> when the filters fade again its a do over.
>
> Probably took 20 years to fade ... worry about it
> again in 20 years. Hi-temp filters with a thermal
> blocking filter shouldn't have any problem with an
> enlarger.
>
>> makes the filter part of the image, and probably
>> would degrade the image quality at least a bit.
>
> No. It won't. Not in the teeneest bit. Not in the
> slightest smidgen.
>
> If you want to know what _will_ degrade your image it
> is the response linearity (lack of) of the VC paper
> that's being used with the filter.
>
> ==
> Nicholas O. Lindan
> Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC
> Cleveland, Ohio 44121
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