[pure-silver] Re: Organic?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas O. Lindan" <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Organic?



"Elias Roustom" <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
Could an argument be made that my darkroom prints are organic? 

The only whole organic technology I know of is the
Physautotype made from the tar of oil of lavender.

There are photographic processes based on faded vegetable
dyes, but they keep fading.
If it is only the final print that needs to be organic then gum and bromoil transfer would count. As would chromogenic color prints and dye transfers (assuming the dyes are organic). 

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Nicholas O. Lindan
Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio 44121
But, as someone pointed out nearly all chemicals used in photography are organic plus the carrier used in conventional photography is gelatin derived from cow (or pig) hides or bones or hoofs (hooves?) depending on who you talk to. The reactions between the gelatin and halides suspended in it are vital to the chacter of the sensitive coating. Now, in the grocery store definition of _organic_ i.e. produced without the use of artificial growth stimulants including fertilizers, or the use of insecticides or pesticides or other chemicals, I am not sure how one would qualify the results. Perhaps if the cows are raised on organic feeds and are allowed to range free, have not been treated with hormones, etc., etc. Now the peculiar thing is that in most states (all?) there is no legal definition of organic as it applies to food products. Over here in Sunny Southern California, home of a great deal of vegetable growing, the stuff marked "organic" in the super market is usually inferior in appearance and flavor to the regular veggies with their alleged burden of poisons. I sometimes get very good veg (but not cheap) at the Pierce College farmer's market. Pierce has a large Ag department and about 250 acres of farm land. I don't know if this stuff qualifies as organic, probably not since they are presumably teaching people how to operate farms to make money. I once inadvertantly caused a friend to become seriously upset by telling her that photographic coatings were animal gelatin. She is a vegan for ethical reasons. Maybe a good organic present would be a wild Rose, or maybe a picture of one. 

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
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