[pure-silver] Re: Old Paper Developer Question
- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:31:50 -0800
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From: "Don Sweet" <don@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Old Paper Developer Question
I have few boxes of 25+ year old enlarging paper, including
Ilfobrom and Portriga Rapid. It is unopened, so I decided
before blazing away I should look for some information about
how to best to process it, particularly to minimise fog.
First I sourced some benzotriazole which I thought could
just be added to Dektol or Neutol or Bromophen developer.
Then following links from the UnblinkingEye website I found
some suggestions that both amidol-based or glycin-based
developers are more resistant to fog than the usual MQ or PQ
blends. Does anyone know if that is right, and whether
either of them is likely to be a better developer for my old
paper?
Thanks
Don Sweet
The fog in old paper or film comes from a chemical
change in the emulsion. I think the advice about Glycin or
Amidol may come from some confusion about the type of fog
here. Some developers are less likely to cause fog
themselves than others and don't need as much anti-fog.
However, this is also dependant on pH. Some low activity
film developers, like D-76 and D-23 don't produce enough
fogging to require an antifoggant although fresh D-76 will
produce a slight amount of fog. Higher pH developers of the
sort usually used for print developing nearly always need
some anti-foggant. This is also because fog is not tolerable
in prints but can be tollerated in film if not too great.
Benzotriazole is more effective in reducing fog in old
paper than bromide although bromide often works.
Benzotriazole also tends to produce cold images where
bromide tends to warm them up. Usually benzotriazle will
result in less loss of speed.
Grant Haist has a chart in his book showing approximate
amounts of a benzotriazole solution to add to developers for
different amounts of fog. Be aware than if the fog is bad
enough no anti-foggant can fix it. Also, the antifoggant
will affect the paper curve a bit so it won't look quite the
same.
Plain Dektol or Bromophen or any other standard paper
developer works fine with this stuff.
Unfortunately, my copy of Haists' book is boxed up at
the moment.
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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