[pure-silver] Re: OT Ebay to take Paypal only..

Well a few things come to mind here for me an again I am no lawyer, don't play 
one on TV and didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night either.

The whole issue of monopoly is one that is decided decades later in courts.  It 
has a number of very gray areas that can be argued longer than a senator in the 
middle of a filibuster. 

Discriminatory practices are more the issue here and the one that should be the 
most upset is the other credit card companies.  IF I take bank cards (and I do) 
as a form of payment, then I don't get to pick and choose "which" bank.  I take 
them all or none assuming the card is valid.

Frankly ebay may have really finally opened the door for another major player 
with this blunder.


--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Tim Daneliuk <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: OT Ebay to take Paypal only..
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:31 AM
> Richard Knoppow wrote:
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim
> Daneliuk" <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:44 AM
> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: OT Ebay to take Paypal
> only..
> > 
> > 
> >> Bogdan Karasek wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Just to add my two Loonies worth to the issue.
>  I am very glad that the
> >>> Australians did something about eBay's 
> preposterous attempt to set up a
> >>> monopoly but you must remember that  the
> current US American President
> >>> has stated on numerous occasions that the
> government has no right to
> >>> interfere in the free market place, after all
> "government is the
> >>> problem, not the solution" (Ronald
> Reagan) .  So I wouldn't hold my
> >>> breath.  eBay will do what it wants, after all
> it is looking after our
> >>> interests :)  (This is sarcasm on my part)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Bogdan
> >>
> >> Uh ... you're all missing the point.  eBay is
> a private sector company
> >> that cannot use the force of government to make
> you do anything.  If
> >> you or I don't like their policies, we can
> simply choose not to use
> >> them.  They are not being coercive.  They are not
> creating a monopoly.
> >> They are not evil.  They are simply running their
> business as they
> >> see fit.  They have this privilege and I have the
> privilege of
> >> participating
> >> or not.  I don't see what all the screaming is
> about.
> > 
> >     There is something subtley wrong with this logic.
> First of all they
> > ARE trying to create a monopoly, namely the method of
> paying for stuff.
> > The first part of the argument assumes that government
> is the only way
> > of forcing something: its not. If eBay takes payment
> only throught
> > Paypal _that_ is force and you have no choice. Of
> course one can simply
> > refuse to use eBay and I think people should. eBay is
> not quite a
> > monopoly but probably comes pretty close.
> 
> First of all, at least in the US, being a monopoly in and
> of itself
> is not illegal.  It is illegal to be a monopoly and thereby
> use
> so-called predatory pricing practices. (Unless you're
> the government
> and have set up many diffent monopolies but that's
> another story.)
> 
> Secondly,  there is no *force* here.  You are not forced to
> use
> eBay.  eBay is merely making it a condition of doing
> business with
> them, that you pay using their preferred mechanism.  This
> is identical
> to the local store that accepts Visa but not American
> Express.
> 
> >     Thirdly, I challenge the idea that simply running
> a buisiness as
> > they see fit is sufficient reason to accept any sort
> of corporate
> > behavior. Taking your argument to its conclusion it
> would allow
> 
> What you personally "accept" is, of course, your
> own decision.
> You don't like their policy, I say don't do
> business with them.
> But demanding legal intervention to prevent them from doing
> this
> seems to me to be an extreme and unwarranted response.
> 
> > practically anything to be done. For instance, the
> current economic melt
> > down (to borrow a TV news phrase) is the sort of thing
> that happens if
> > one allows business to simply pursue the path of least
> resistance.
> 
> That's certainly how its been trumpeted by the popular
> media ... and it
> is almost entirely wrong.  There are many contributors to
> this mess - and
> yes, the financial industry bears some blame.  But so too
> does the
> borrowing public who way overextended themselves, and so
> too does the
> government for spending money it did not have (for
> generations).   It
> seems very popular these days to blames businesses and
> markets.  But
> these are the only instruments we possess for actually
> *fixing* any of
> the problems.
> 
> >    I, for one, claim the right to complain if I think
> someone is trying
> > to cheat me and demand that that behavior be stopped.
> 
> You have the right to complain, but I defy you do
> demonstrate that you
> are anyone else is being "cheated" because eBay
> instituted this policy.
> 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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