[pure-silver] Re: Need help with exposures, please, - Peter
- From: Janet Cull <jcull@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:35:34 -0400
>>>I also pre-soak my film (i.e. before the developer) for two or
three minutes.<<<
I'm curious about that. I've never soaked my film more than 10 or 15
seconds. Is 2 or 3 minutes the commonly used practice?
On Oct 19, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Lloyd Erlick wrote:
At 07:33 PM 10/17/2006 , >Janet wrote:
... I've avoided testing forever. Maybe that's my problem?
...
October 19, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,
I don't think so. I've never done any official 'testing' in my
life. I just
put film in there, do a bunch of pictures, see how it looks, read
magazines
and books, talk to people about it, expose more film, find out which
frames work for me and where I seem to have made errors, well, you
get the
idea. The key is to keep a personal record of what you've done.
Unless this could be described as testing?
Exposure advice used to be: "f/8 and be there."
Now it's, "Set light meter to half the manufacturer's film speed
rating".
Also, keep in mind most negative black and white films have extreme
latitude for over-exposure, but close to no latitude for under-
exposure. So
as long as one limits error to over-exposure, prints can be made.
Overly-dense (over-exposed) negatives can yield extremely beautiful
prints,
although perhaps with a bit more darkroom effort.
About the most important piece of equipment for a photographer is a
notebook and writing instrument. Call it a diary or Weston's Day
Book, it
will come to hold a wealth of personal information and film data.
And you
can record the results of all your testing in it...
(Somewhere online I came across the notebooks of Eugene Smith.
There are
also the journals of Da Vinci somewhere out there...)
I like medium-speed films, and I have been using Kodak T-Max 400
for years.
I set my meter to 200. I almost always work in shadow-daylight (no
direct
sun, that is). My subjects tend to be lit by sky or cloudy sky. I
try to
use f8 as much as I can, unless it's bright and I can get to f11.
At f8, on
an ordinary weather day, around mid-afternoon, my shutter speed would
likely be 1/8 second. If it's brighter, 1/15 (that's a high speed
for me).
If it's brighter yet, 1/15 at f11.
I develop my film in Xtol diluted 1+2, for 12 minutes at 21 degrees
C. I
also pre-soak my film (i.e. before the developer) for two or three
minutes.
D76 diluted 1+1 works pretty well the same way, or close to it.
So, my help with exposure would be, put in a roll of film and set
the meter
to half its rated speed, and develop it as above. Record everything
and
make fine-tuning adjustments as you go along.
Maybe the real key is exposing lots and lots of film. Take many
pictures!
This gives you what to record in your notebook.
regards,
--le
________________________________
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website: www.heylloyd.com
telephone: 416-686-0326
email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Oct 19, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Lloyd Erlick wrote:
At 07:33 PM 10/17/2006 , >Janet wrote:
... I've avoided testing forever. Maybe that's my problem? ...
October 19, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,
I don't think so. I've never done any official 'testing' in my life. I just
put film in there, do a bunch of pictures, see how it looks, read magazines
and books, talk to people about it, expose more film, find out which
frames work for me and where I seem to have made errors, well, you get the
idea. The key is to keep a personal record of what you've done.
Unless this could be described as testing?
Exposure advice used to be: "f/8 and be there."
Now it's, "Set light meter to half the manufacturer's film speed rating".
Also, keep in mind most negative black and white films have extreme
latitude for over-exposure, but close to no latitude for under- exposure. So
as long as one limits error to over-exposure, prints can be made.
Overly-dense (over-exposed) negatives can yield extremely beautiful prints,
although perhaps with a bit more darkroom effort.
About the most important piece of equipment for a photographer is a
notebook and writing instrument. Call it a diary or Weston's Day Book, it
will come to hold a wealth of personal information and film data. And you
can record the results of all your testing in it...
(Somewhere online I came across the notebooks of Eugene Smith. There are
also the journals of Da Vinci somewhere out there...)
I like medium-speed films, and I have been using Kodak T-Max 400 for years.
I set my meter to 200. I almost always work in shadow-daylight (no direct
sun, that is). My subjects tend to be lit by sky or cloudy sky. I try to
use f8 as much as I can, unless it's bright and I can get to f11. At f8, on
an ordinary weather day, around mid-afternoon, my shutter speed would
likely be 1/8 second. If it's brighter, 1/15 (that's a high speed for me).
If it's brighter yet, 1/15 at f11.
I develop my film in Xtol diluted 1+2, for 12 minutes at 21 degrees C. I
also pre-soak my film (i.e. before the developer) for two or three minutes.
D76 diluted 1+1 works pretty well the same way, or close to it.
So, my help with exposure would be, put in a roll of film and set the meter
to half its rated speed, and develop it as above. Record everything and
make fine-tuning adjustments as you go along.
Maybe the real key is exposing lots and lots of film. Take many pictures!
This gives you what to record in your notebook.
regards, --le ________________________________ Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. website: www.heylloyd.com telephone: 416-686-0326 email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ --
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