[pure-silver] Re: Mixing
- From: Lee Carmichael <click76112@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:53:28 -0500
Part B for PMK is sodium metaborate and Part B for Pyrocat HD is pot carbonate.
lee\c
At 03:05 PM 9/16/2005, you wrote:
The solution is very concentrated, I believe that it
is the same as the part B for PMK pyro, which I mix up
and use. Using warm water helps, although if the
water is too hot, then you get a white precipitate
which will not redissolve. You can mix it with twice
the water, and then use twice as much when mixing the
developer - since pyro is usually very dilute, this
works well.
--- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "titrisol" <titrisol@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:07 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Mixing
>
>
> > That is quite concentrated... can you make a half
> strength
> > solution and then use double of wht is required?
> > My guess is that you'll have to use warm water
> (60-70C) to
> > dissolve so much carbonate.
> > Besides, if my Handbok of CHemistry and Physics is
>
> > correct,
> > solubility should be aorund 46g/100 ml !!
> >
> >
> > --- Camclicker@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >> I am going to mix up 100 mL of Pyrocat HD and
> solution B
> >> calls
> >> for 75g
> >> Potassium Carbonate to be mixed with 70 mL
> distilled
> >> water and
> >> topped off to 100
> >> mL..
> >>
> >> The last time I tried mixing this dense a
> solution (84g
> >> Sodium
> >> Carbonate to
> >> 100mL water) I ended up with a glob of unusable,
> moist
> >> Sodium
> >> Carb. Will the
> >> Potassium behave the same way as the Sodium, if
> so is
> >> there a
> >> trick to
> >> mixing dense solutions?
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >> Brooklyn, NY
> >> camclicker@xxxxxxx
> >> www.camclicker.com
> >>
> I wonder what form of carbonate was specified in
> the
> _original_ formula. In the US carbonate is usually
> either
> anhydrous or monohydrated but many English formulas
> specify
> crystaline carbonate. If the original formula was
> written
> for crystaline carbonate and that specification got
> lost
> somewhere it could explain the problem.
>
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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The solution is very concentrated, I believe that it is the same as the part B for PMK pyro, which I mix up and use. Using warm water helps, although if the water is too hot, then you get a white precipitate which will not redissolve. You can mix it with twice the water, and then use twice as much when mixing the developer - since pyro is usually very dilute, this works well.
--- Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "titrisol" <titrisol@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:07 PM > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Mixing > > > > That is quite concentrated... can you make a half > strength > > solution and then use double of wht is required? > > My guess is that you'll have to use warm water > (60-70C) to > > dissolve so much carbonate. > > Besides, if my Handbok of CHemistry and Physics is > > > correct, > > solubility should be aorund 46g/100 ml !! > > > > > > --- Camclicker@xxxxxxx wrote: > > > >> I am going to mix up 100 mL of Pyrocat HD and > solution B > >> calls > >> for 75g > >> Potassium Carbonate to be mixed with 70 mL > distilled > >> water and > >> topped off to 100 > >> mL.. > >> > >> The last time I tried mixing this dense a > solution (84g > >> Sodium > >> Carbonate to > >> 100mL water) I ended up with a glob of unusable, > moist > >> Sodium > >> Carb. Will the > >> Potassium behave the same way as the Sodium, if > so is > >> there a > >> trick to > >> mixing dense solutions? > >> > >> Bruce > >> Brooklyn, NY > >> camclicker@xxxxxxx > >> www.camclicker.com > >> > I wonder what form of carbonate was specified in > the > _original_ formula. In the US carbonate is usually > either > anhydrous or monohydrated but many English formulas > specify > crystaline carbonate. If the original formula was > written > for crystaline carbonate and that specification got > lost > somewhere it could explain the problem. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ============================================================================================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to > www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the > same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. >
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