[pure-silver] Re: Kentona Weirdness II

Hi Mark,
Yes this last test was after the elimination of the variables, and after Freestyle suggested I switch developers. Their suggestion was pretty weird though - follow the thread backwards and you'll see.
Kentona does give a pretty good look for the right negative - contrast and crisp detail. Has a lovely finish, and wonderful warm tone. Unfortunately for me, it looks better in Dektol than it does in Sprint. It's not a versatile sheet though, and not worth the trouble. Some day I'll try it again, if it still exists. 

Elias

On Dec 28, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Mark Blackwell wrote:
Ok we are slowly narrowing the possibilities. A couple of things to ask and to think about. Some things I look at the first print and either think ho hum or wow. IF it was a look you liked, it might be worth further investigation to you.
First I would think about how I washed the print? Was it consistent with the ways you always wash prints. Think back, am I sure the water was circulating properly? Was the wash aid fresh? Did you use one? With RC it usually isn't needed.
Next thing I would ask is did you tone the prints with any type of toner? Sometimes a little fix can stain if in the presence of toner. Could there be some sort of cross contamination???
Since we know the print was good except the edges, the paper should be compatible with Dektol. It could be a defect in manufacture. Is it worth it to you to test another box to see if the problem continues in a different box? Did the package seem damaged in any way that might indicate light leaks in the packaging?
Actually in the past I have gone though these types of head scratchers not so much because I wanted to use the paper. One I am not the type to want to give up. Even if I don't end up using the paper again, I have a natural curiosity that makes me want to know why that stain is there. That brings me to reason two in that often when the riddle is figured out, I usually have learned at least one or two things that apply to other situations. If I learn something its time and money well spent.
Sounds like though in the process you have systematically eliminated the variables one at a time. Id also make one other suggestion. Id call Freestyle and talk to them. Unlike some of the other big photo houses, my experience with them is that they were more than willing to answer a question if they happen to know. It may be a common problem, or they might actually have a list of codes that has some batch numbers that might have defects in them. It might be something silly and one of those that leave you wondering "Why didn't I think of that?" 


--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kentona Weirdness II
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 7:37 PM
And so I did. Here's the result: Dektol stains the
paper, Sprint does not.

This time the stains are to the edges of the sheet only, so
the stunning (my wife and daughter in-front of the tree on
Christmas morning) print is presentable.

Elias

On Dec 28, 2008, at 1:23 AM, Mark Blackwell wrote:


Well before you run out of paper you might try one or

two more with a fresh batch of Dektol to rule out the
chemistry.  In fact Id make sure I used fresh everything.



--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Elias Roustom

<elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [pure-silver] Kentona Weirdness II
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 8:19 PM
Hi all,

earlier this evening I decided to give another try

to my

few remaining Kentona sheets. This time I used

Sprint

developer (not Dektol). And guess what? No yellow

stains. I

don't know how many Kentona users there are

out there,

but if this is helpful to anyone, that's

great.

   Of course that's not proof of anything. It

could be

the few sheets that got the stain are the only

sheets that

would. These three sheets exhibit a new phenomena

- some

shiny irregular shaped spots. When turned to the

light the

sheets show these spots as areas of extra gloss...

whatever.

   One of the prints looks good. I'll make

another copy

of it tomorrow and that should do it for this

batch of

paper. I don't think I'm brave enough to

try another

batch of it, but would love to hear from anyone

else who is

still using it.

Elias
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