[pure-silver] Re: Kentona Weirdness II

Ok we are slowly narrowing the possibilities.  A couple of things to ask and to 
think about.  Some things I look at the first print and either think ho hum or 
wow.  IF it was a look you liked, it might be worth further investigation to 
you.

First I would think about how I washed the print?  Was it consistent with the 
ways you always wash prints.  Think back, am I sure the water was circulating 
properly?  Was the wash aid fresh?  Did you use one?  With RC it usually isn't 
needed.

Next thing I would ask is did you tone the prints with any type of toner?  
Sometimes a little fix can stain if in the presence of toner.  Could there be 
some sort of cross contamination???

Since we know the print was good except the edges, the paper should be 
compatible with Dektol.  It could be a defect in manufacture.  Is it worth it 
to you to test another box to see if the problem continues in a different box?  
Did the package seem damaged in any way that might indicate light leaks in the 
packaging?

Actually in the past I have gone though these types of head scratchers not so 
much because I wanted to use the paper.  One I am not the type to want to give 
up.  Even if I don't end up using the paper again, I have a natural curiosity 
that makes me want to know why that stain is there.  That brings me to reason 
two in that often when the riddle is figured out, I usually have learned at 
least one or two things that apply to other situations.  If I learn something 
its time and money well spent.

Sounds like though in the process you have systematically eliminated the 
variables one at  a time.  Id also make one other suggestion.  Id call 
Freestyle and talk to them.  Unlike some of the other big photo houses, my 
experience with them is that they were more than willing to answer a question 
if they happen to know.  It may be a common problem, or they might actually 
have a list of codes that has some batch numbers that might have defects in 
them.  It might be something silly and one of those that leave you wondering 
"Why didn't I think of that?"


--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kentona Weirdness II
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 7:37 PM
> And so I did. Here's the result: Dektol stains the
> paper, Sprint does not.
> 
> This time the stains are to the edges of the sheet only, so
> the stunning (my wife and daughter in-front of the tree on
> Christmas morning) print is presentable.
> 
> Elias
> 
> On Dec 28, 2008, at 1:23 AM, Mark Blackwell wrote:
> 
> > Well before you run out of paper you might try one or
> two more with a fresh batch of Dektol to rule out the
> chemistry.  In fact Id make sure I used fresh everything.
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Elias Roustom
> <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [pure-silver] Kentona Weirdness II
> >> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 8:19 PM
> >> Hi all,
> >> 
> >> earlier this evening I decided to give another try
> to my
> >> few remaining Kentona sheets. This time I used
> Sprint
> >> developer (not Dektol). And guess what? No yellow
> stains. I
> >> don't know how many Kentona users there are
> out there,
> >> but if this is helpful to anyone, that's
> great.
> >>    Of course that's not proof of anything. It
> could be
> >> the few sheets that got the stain are the only
> sheets that
> >> would. These three sheets exhibit a new phenomena
> - some
> >> shiny irregular shaped spots. When turned to the
> light the
> >> sheets show these spots as areas of extra gloss...
> whatever.
> >>    One of the prints looks good. I'll make
> another copy
> >> of it tomorrow and that should do it for this
> batch of
> >> paper. I don't think I'm brave enough to
> try another
> >> batch of it, but would love to hear from anyone
> else who is
> >> still using it.
> >> 
> >> Elias
> >>
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