[pure-silver] Re: Kentmere Kentona Weirdness

Yes, in ordinary situations the developer won't be an issue; 
obviously this is not an ordinry case, users such as yourself have claimed 
different behaviour of the same troubled paper in different paper, and Company 
reps have suggested dilution may have affect this problem... 

so I am reluctant to discount Developer involvement in the problem- not that 
there could be something wrong with the developer, but rather, it may have 
issues with an aging, out of wack emulsion that is being both reformulated and 
produced in a new location by presumably different personell, in different 
equipment possible even to a different scale, and then being coated on a 
different machine... all this probably is at play... but the true nature of the 
problem, or worse, a good cure, has not yet been identified I fear. 

I wish I could see what it looks like.

It is highly likely it is a problem with the emulsion... when was it made?

Do you have the emulsion code number?

Is there anything that ID's it as being either the old Kentmere or the new 
Harman/Kentmere product?

???

Ray 


That emusion has proven difficult to reproduce  

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kentmere Kentona Weirdness
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 2:30 PM
> I was using Dektol. I started with a bottle of 1:3 that I
> was using the night before. When I saw the stains I made a
> fresh batch of 1:2, as I also noted my sheet could use a
> little more contrast. When that didn't do it I mixed a
> fresh batch of stop, then a fresh batch of Fix. I washed the
> paper for longer than normal. The dry sheets still show both
> the stains and the ghosty blotches. A sheet of ancient Agfa
> paper processed in the same fresh chems shows no stains, no
> spots.
> 
> I suppose I'll try Sprint's developer next, but
> what Richard says sounds right.  The developer shouldn't
> matter.
> 
> Several threads ago it came up about the limited paper
> options out there. Too bad.
> 
> E.
> 
> On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Ray Rogers wrote:
> 
> > What Dev. are you using?
> > 
> > according to:
> >
> http://photo.net/black-and-white-photo-printing-finishing-forum/00OWFw
> > 
> > "The consensus seems to be that the removal of
> cadmium from the paper is the culprit and that (and the
> folks at Freestyle seem to support this) the paper should
> not be used with Phenodine-based developers, but only with
> metol-based developers."
> > 
> > So perhaps you might try it with Dektol or D-72...
> > 
> > Ray
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Elias Roustom
> <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Elias Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [pure-silver] Kentmere Kentona Weirdness
> >> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 4:53 AM
> >> It's a #2 grade fiber paper, and I've had
> good luck
> >> with it in the past.
> >> Tonight was a disaster. The paper was showing
> little ghosty
> >> dark spots that were not in the neg, then showing
> yellow
> >> stain blotches throughout. Instead of printing, I
> spent the
> >> night trying to figure out what it was. I changed
> everything
> >> to fresh, dev, stop, fix, with some success - or
> so it
> >> seemed - the spots didn't come back, but the
> yellow
> >> staining stayed - kept to the edges for some
> reason. I tried
> >> other papers that did not show the same problem.
> This paper
> >> is a year old from a pack of 25. I can't
> imagine
> >> it's fogged - that's not yellow is it? Bad
> batch?
> >> 
> >> I can't tell if the yellow comes at
> development, stop,
> >> or fix, I just see it in white light.
> >> 
> >> Anyone else have experience with Kentona?
> >> 
> >> Elias
> >>
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