[pure-silver] Re: KRST

I think it depends on when you stop toning in the first toner
and move to the other one.  Look into TimRudman's toning book.

I observed that selenium (patterson) tended to tone the darkest
parts first and creep into the light tones and sulfide
(Viradon-new) started with the lighter tones.  So a nice split
could be done.

I did some tests in AGFA MCC paper and could see the
"purpleness" creeping up, and depending when I stopped the
selenium the results of such splits were very different.  Some
had very nice golden tones, other showed nice brownish tones,
some had even red hues.





--- Lloyd Erlick <lloyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


> August 22, 2007, from Lloyd Erlick,
> 
> I've done this. Once I tried all the four combinations of
> brown toner and
> selenium toner:
> 
> -each one alone -- we know the effects.
> -KRST first followed by brown toner -- the color of KRST
> result but less
> 'golden' and slightly more 'brown' than KRST alone.
> -brown toner first followed by selenium (KRST) -- appearance
> of final
> result closer to brown toner alone, i.e. the result looks more
> like brown
> toner but moved in the direction of the appearance of KRST.
> 
> I used the potassium polysulfide home brew brown toner.
> 
> The results were subtle color variations, not dramatic highly
> obvious ones.
> Basically the brown toner first method resulted in slightly
> lighter and
> browner prints, and the KRST first followed by brown toner
> resulted in
> slightly darker, slightly less brown and slightly more
> golden/maroon prints.
> 
> I found the odor of hydrogen sulfide very hard to bear when I
> stupidly used
> the brown toner in my darkroom. That is an outdoor activity.
> It'll fog
> photosensitive materials, too, so doing it in my darkroom was
> dumb.
> 
> Personally, I find the final result from selenium toner much
> more
> attractive than from brown toner. I'm a portraitist and I like
> the quality
> selenium gives skin tones. There is a golden quality to the
> brown tone from
> selenium which seems to signify health. Also, the tone from
> selenium seems
> much more complex, revealing different color qualities
> depending on how the
> print is illuminated, and the angle at which the toned print
> is viewed by
> the eye.
> 
> I don't have exactly precise color perception, so I try not to
> give
> absolute commentary on color. I've "calibrated" my color
> perception by
> asking female viewers for feedback on the color of my final
> prints when I
> do these little experiments (females are extremely rarely
> color defective,
> while ten per cent of males have some degree of color
> defectiveness. Note
> that color blindness is a different animal, and a much more
> serious one,
> because it is often associated with other more serious
> problems).
> 
> Rather than accept my odd color descriptions it would be
> interesting for
> anyone to do the various combinations. Brown toner is cheap
> and easy to
> make; just use it outdoors or under strong ventilation.
> 
> regards,
> --le
> ________________________________
> Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto.
> website: www.heylloyd.com
> telephone: 416-686-0326
> email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ________________________________
> -- 
> 
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