[pure-silver] Re: Jessie as Victorine
- From: Laurence Cuffe <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:14:21 -0700
On Tuesday, March 27, 2007, at 07:28AM, "Shannon Stoney" <sstoney@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
>PS Just now I used google images to find some Sally Mann pictures.
>There's one called Luncheon on the Grass that is a clear reference to
>Manet's Dejeuner sur L'Herbe, starring his favorite model Victorine
>Meurent. Victorine was a prostitute, and is also the model for
>Olympia.
>
>So it seems that at least twice, Sally Mann used Jessie as a stand-in
>for Victorine in Manet's paintings. I will say without apology that
>this seems like a bad idea to me.
>
>--shannon
Dear Shannon,
I have three children and I wouldn?t photograph my children the way Sally Mann
photographed hers, because it would not be documenting anything which is a
normal part of our life style.
However when I look at the body of work which includes her children, it seems
to document a casual and relaxed rural life where casual nudity is the norm. Ex
hippie seems to about cover it as a descriptor for me.
Being clothed or unclothed, and what degree of clothing is deemed appropriate
is a fascinatingly mutable cultural artifact, and the history of art is full of
bits painted over or hacked off for offending a later generations sensibilities.
Is she exploiting her children? I? don?t think so. The image which features on
the cover of at twelve,
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0893813303/ref=nosim/theartcyclopedia
and which was described in the review you quoted, seems to me to be
documenting our changing mores, rather than having been created specifically
for its erotic content.
I think a lot of what we see in images is in our own heads, and your comments
have made it much harder for me to see the images mentioned as I think the
photographer intended rather than as you see them. I don?t thank you for that.
I could go on, but I think Sally Mann?s comments here are to the point.
http://www.nerve.com/dispatches/voicebox/puberty/Mann_Answer3.asp
All the best
Larry Cuffe
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