[pure-silver] Re: Increasing Warmth In Ansco 115, Dassonville D-3 , et al
- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:40:32 -0700
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From: "Nicholas O. Lindan" <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Increasing Warmth In Ansco 115,
Dassonville D-3 , et al
From: "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
Would there be any warmth benefit in adding anything
to the 115 formula or increasing the amounts of any of
the components? [to increase image warmth]
You can try increasing the bromide from 4g/l stock to
10g/l
stock, a la WW-1.
Or try Ansco 110, a hydroquinone only developer.
--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm
n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
There are two Agfa formulas numbered 115. The older
formula, found in European Agfa handbooks contains
Hydroquinone as the sole developing agent and results in
great loss of paper speed and some loss of Dmax for greatest
warmth. The other formula is a Hydroquinone and Glycin
formula found in handbooks published by Agfa-Ansco in the
U.S. If this is the one you are using there probably isn't
anything which will produce warmer tones although Gevaert
had some interseting very warm tone formulas.
Another possibility is to try Nelson's Gold Toner.
This is a direct toner which is supposed to tone all
densities evenly. It is somewhat expensive because it
contains some Gold Chloride.
Prints toned in Nelson's must be fixed again after
toning if the images are to be permanent. This step was left
out of some versions of the Kodak instructions. Both Kodak
and Agfa were licensed and have instructions but the best
are found in the patent itself, USP 1,849,245. A PDF version
of this can be downloaded from Google Patents.
AFAIK, the protective effect of Nelson's has never
been tested but, if the final fixing step is carried out,
the images should be as stable as those from other sulfiding
toners.
The Gold tends to shift the color toward red a bit so
it may mimic very warm tone paper better.
Note that the image color of untreated silver is
mostly controlled by the grain size and structure, warmer
tones coming from finer grains. In general, the warmer the
tone the more vulnerable the images are to polutants due to
the increased ratio of surface area to mass. This is also
mainly why they tone faster.
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
Would there be any warmth benefit in adding anything to the 115 formula or increasing the amounts of any of the components? [to increase image warmth]
You can try increasing the bromide from 4g/l stock to 10g/l
stock, a la WW-1. Or try Ansco 110, a hydroquinone only developer. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
- [pure-silver] Increasing Warmth In Ansco 115, Dassonville D-3 , et al
- From: Eric Nelson
- [pure-silver] Re: Increasing Warmth In Ansco 115, Dassonville D-3 , et al
- From: Nicholas O. Lindan