[pure-silver] Re: IR pin hole photography

Thank you Mike. I wanted to use 120 film. So, I guess I'll use Maco's 820ir. 
I took apart an old 69 folder today and will use it for a pinhole camera. I 
like taking things apart to see how they work and needed an excuse to take 
apart 
a camera. It was fun to see how everything was put together in layers. I need 
some smaller screwdrivers! 
What have you used for your pinholes? Copper? Tin? ........ ?

I was thinking that I'd buy a jell filter #87 and cut a small bit to put over 
or behind my pinhole. What do you think? Do you foresee any troubles with 
this plan?

Becky Lynn
Using IR film in a pinhole is no different from using any other film with 
pinhole. The 
difference between IR and other films is that you can't meter with a standard 
meter. Most 
of my exposures come quite close, tho, so metering is a good starting point, 
and 
shouldn't let you get too far off the mark unless you're shooting into the 
sun or shooting 
late in the day.

You don't say what your format is. Kodak's HIE works the best for true IR, 
but it only 
comes in 35mm. (I think you can order 120 rolls from David Romero on the 
web.) With 
HIE, the stronger your filter, the more dramatic. IE, #29 Red or the #87 IR 
wratten 
climpon. The #87filter makes amazing results with HIE. Laurie White has 
written a book, 
"Infrared Photography Handbook", which you might want to read. Regrettably it 
is a 
blatant plug for Kodak and Kodak film, and would lead you to think that 
they're the only 
people worth bothering with This is not the case.

The other IR film I've shot is Maco's 820ir. This is a kind-of-sort-of IR, 
barely more than 
an extended red film. It comes in all sizes. I shoot that in 4x5, pinhole and 
lensed both. 
Expect long exposures with pinhole, especially because you will need to use 
either 
a #29 red, but the #87 IR filter. The #87 requires unbelievable times, 
minutes in broad 
daylight. Results have been weird, but not as interesting as I would have 
liked. Certainly 
not as interesting as you get with Kodak HIE.

I have shot several rolls of the Konica IR, again using #29 Red. Not enough 
to be able 
to comment except to say that it does work. It's harder to get because it's 
made in a 
single run once a year.

I would just get some film and experiment. Just one thing: Be sure to develop 
a system 
for yourself from the get-go. Take copious notets, and be able to reproduce 
exposures. 
For that, White's book is very good. She does use a system, and can help you 
start off 
on the right foot. I would say that, especially with HIE, you are likely to 
get exasperated 
pretty quickly if you don't start out working pretty anally in your 
shot-by-shot 
documentation about such things as location of sun, time of day, day of year, 
angle of 
sun in relation to your own axis, that sort of thing. This will pay off 
pretty quickly, tho, 
with exposures that work because you consistently gauge the shot. Oh, and you 
will 
want to bracket with Kodak.

Mike

On 23 Nov 2004 at 18:22, AhYouBecky@xxxxxxx wrote:

Questions, questions, questions........
I'm in the mood to play. So, I want to try IR film in a pin hole
camera. 

Have any of you used IR film in a pin hole camera? What kinds of
things should I be aware of? Oh, and what IR films are easiest to work
with? 

Becky Lynn


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