[pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?

Hi Tim,

Blurb has recently started printing books from PDFs, which is a "universal"
format, and I would think that the DVD in Quark could be copied out into
Portable Document Format for printing. Something to explore -- become your
own publisher! I'm sure you could get some help from listmembers.

-Bill

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:29 AM, <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It might seem that way Tim, but if you have it in Quark Express I really
> don't think it will be any more than making a copy of that DVD and sending
> it to them.  I know some of those will even do MS Word documents.  You
> likely will have no more time invested in this than checking a website, a
> couple of emails and sending them a DVD.
>
> If you sold a print run of 4000 in the US alone, you are very likely to be
> selling far more than just a book or two.  You have had enough books out
> there for name recognition and a reputation for your books being both
> informative, an well written.  You could make more by self publishing than
> you could with a publisher.  Now if you had written a novel that would be
> bought by tens of millions, its a different story.
>
> What ever you decide, (and if I can help feel free to email me off list)
> please do us all a favor.  Make several copies of that DVD today and store
> them in several different places.  One of which if it were my book would be
> in a bank safety deposit box.  That way if something happens to that DVD all
> is not lost.  That would be a big shame.
>
> Mark
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
> From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, July 22, 2009 1:11 am
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>  Well I have the DVD from the publisher (although I haven’t looked at it).
> It was done by the designer in Quark express, which I don’t have and don’t
> know enough about to use but I understood that blurb et al have their own
> layout software and I assumed that there would be compatibility problems.
> Mark, I have only had the rights returned quite recently after the last US
> book sold (the UK ones sold out very fast) and have been really busy since
> then.
>
> You are right, I did enjoy writing the book very much, but it was a lot of
> work and took a lot of time. Not sure I have that time to allocate right now
> for maybe only a handful of books. I would love to bring it back to market
> but it seems daunting unless I find a publisher
> Tim.
>
>  *From:* pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* 21 July 2009 23:07
> *To:* pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>
> If you have the layout in electronic format, blurb, lulu or maybe any of a
> host of publishing outlets would be able to reproduce it from the format in
> which it currently exists.  You already have the editing done.  There should
> be no need to re edit.  Layout already exists.  Unless you are going to
> change it, you shouldn't need to redo anything.  Some have software to make
> it easier.  I still think there is likely a place where it can be done with
> the same material that printed the original book.
>
> Lulu and Blur sell directly to the customer, they collect the cash and send
> you a check. You as the author are not involved in the sales transaction to
> the buyer. The beauty of it is that there is no need to produce anything
> till its sold.  You or a customer can buy just one book at a time if that's
> what they want.  Unlike in years past where an author would have to buy say
> 200 copies to sell themselves, that is not necessary anymore.
>
> Most sites let you set your own price, the site charges for printing the
> book and usually a transaction fee.  If you do any extra marketing its all
> to the good, and everyone wins.    Once the word gets out that your books
> are at X site,  I am sure the customers will find you.
>
> You had to have spent a great deal of time in the darkroom to have the
> knowledge to write that book.  You had to have enjoyed writing enough to
> share that knowledge, so it would be a real shame to see it limited because
> of the needs of a large publishing house.
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
> From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, July 21, 2009 2:47 pm
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  Thank you Mark
>  I hear about online publishing but have no experience of it (preferring
> the darkroom of course).
>  Recalling the many long weeks of layout, design and re-editing that
> preceded the book I’m not sure it is so simple to reproduce via blurb or
> whatever.
>  Am I wrong?
>  Tim
>
>   *From:* pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [**<pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *] *On Behalf Of *mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* 21 July 2009 21:20
> *To:* pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>
>  Well Tim  One thing I do hope you consider with your "out of print" books
> is to not let them STAY out of print.  Way too much valuable information
> there to keep them unavailable.  Though the niche may be too small for the
> big publishing houses to make enough of a profit to keep them in print, this
> to me seem to be the perfect situation for self publishing them.  A place
> like Lulu or Blurb or maybe any of a host of possible outlets are available
> with minimal effort there to keep them available and profitable for you.
> The hard work is already done.
>
> I made a phone call to KEH the other day about trying to find some used
> Paul Buff lights.  The response was, "We almost never get any because anyone
> that buys them keeps them."  I suspect your books would fall into the same
> category.  Yet with self publishing, even if its just a few a month with no
> up front investment its cash that wouldn't have been there otherwise and the
> knowledge is still readily available.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth or with inflation I better toss in a nickel.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>   -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
> From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, July 21, 2009 12:28 pm
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi Harry
> Yes the 1st LITH book (was actually my 2nd book) is the MPLPC and the 2nd
> LITH book (actually my 4th book) is the WOLP.
>
> The materials list you downloaded from my site is more up dated than WOLP
> now and I will have to update it again this fall I expect, meanwhile the
> newletters have been updating it. I can send you those if you want then,
> together with the one about to go out, you'll be bang up to date and
> somewhat ahead in fact as the latest news in it hasn't been released yet.
>
> The WOLP is more than an update on materials though. It is the only
> international collection of lith printers' work. As it is such a flexible
> process it can be pushed into many different 'looks' and I felt that could
> be inspirational. It also contains some newer techniques BTW.
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [** <http://email02.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose>*
> mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *] On Behalf Of harry kalish
> Sent: 21 July 2009 20:06
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>
> Thank you, Tim, for all the free materials.
>
> Just to be certain, your first book is 'The Master Photographer's Lith
> Printing Course', and the second is 'The World of Lith Printing', right?
>
> If so, I'm gonna buy the first one. And the second book has essentially the
> same updated materials info. as the FREE REPORT on your web site?
>
> The images of lith prints that I'm seeing on-line are really very special.
> Very convincing.
>
> Thanks,
> Harry
>
>
> On 7/21/09 9:51 AM, "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Richard. May I appoint you as my agent? :-)
> > The Toning book is now sold out both in UK and US editions and sadly
> there
> > are no plans by the publisher to reprint it (small market) so the rights
> > have reverted to me. So it's a case of second hand copies on Amazon now.
> >
> > Harry, if you did want to pursue Lith, be aware that of my 2 lith books
> it
> > is the first one that is the 'how to do' book. The second updates the
> > materials, which are constantly changing of course, and introduces work
> from
> > others around the world in different genres and styles. I'm not trying to
> > sell to you but you can find info on 
> > *www.worldoflithprinting.com*<http://www.worldoflithprinting.com>
> > Also, you can download a new materials update (last Nov) from
> > *www.timrudman.com* <http://www.timrudman.com> It's free to my mailing
> list.
> >
> > Incidentally, there is some imminent good news for silver printers:-) I'm
> > just waiting for clearance to announce it in my newsletter which
> hopefully
> > will go out today or tomorrow.
> > Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow
> > Sent: 21 July 2009 01:56
> > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "harry kalish" <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:26 PM
> > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
> >
> >
> >> Thank you, Tim and all others for all the info. I might
> >> have to buy the book
> >> to get filled in on the nuances of this process.
> >> ---Harry.
> >>
> > As long as you are in a book buying mood you might as
> > well get Dr. Rudman's book on toning. Its the best available
> > and will suggest all sorts of interesting things to try.
> >
> > --
> > Richard Knoppow
> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
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