[pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?

Can you expand Tom? I'm not sure I understand your post.
Tim

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Sent: 22 July 2009 00:00
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?

Tim,

Are you willing to share the sales figures for the lith and toning books?

Tom.

mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> If you have the layout in electronic format, blurb, lulu or maybe any 
> of a host of publishing outlets would be able to reproduce it from the 
> format in which it currently exists.  You already have the editing 
> done.  There should be no need to re edit.  Layout already exists.  
> Unless you are going to change it, you shouldn't need to redo 
> anything.  Some have software to make it easier.  I still think there 
> is likely a place where it can be done with the same material that 
> printed the original book.
>
> Lulu and Blur sell directly to the customer, they collect the cash and 
> send you a check. You as the author are not involved in the sales 
> transaction to the buyer. The beauty of it is that there is no need to 
> produce anything till its sold.  You or a customer can buy just one 
> book at a time if that's what they want.  Unlike in years past where 
> an author would have to buy say 200 copies to sell themselves, that is 
> not necessary anymore.
>
> Most sites let you set your own price, the site charges for printing 
> the book and usually a transaction fee.  If you do any extra marketing 
> its all to the good, and everyone wins.    Once the word gets out that 
> your books are at X site,  I am sure the customers will find you.
>
> You had to have spent a great deal of time in the darkroom to have the 
> knowledge to write that book.  You had to have enjoyed writing enough 
> to share that knowledge, so it would be a real shame to see it limited 
> because of the needs of a large publishing house.
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>     From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Tue, July 21, 2009 2:47 pm
>     To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>     Thank you Mark
>     I hear about online publishing but have no experience of it
>     (preferring the darkroom of course).
>     Recalling the many long weeks of layout, design and re-editing
>     that preceded the book I’m not sure it is so simple to reproduce
>     via blurb or whatever.
>     Am I wrong?
>     Tim
>      
>     *From:* pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
>     *mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     *Sent:* 21 July 2009 21:20
>     *To:* pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     *Subject:* [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>      
>     Well Tim  One thing I do hope you consider with your "out of
>     print" books is to not let them STAY out of print.  Way too much
>     valuable information there to keep them unavailable.  Though the
>     niche may be too small for the big publishing houses to make
>     enough of a profit to keep them in print, this to me seem to be
>     the perfect situation for self publishing them.  A place like Lulu
>     or Blurb or maybe any of a host of possible outlets are available
>     with minimal effort there to keep them available and profitable
>     for you.  The hard work is already done.
>
>     I made a phone call to KEH the other day about trying to find some
>     used Paul Buff lights.  The response was, "We almost never get any
>     because anyone that buys them keeps them."  I suspect your books
>     would fall into the same category.  Yet with self publishing, even
>     if its just a few a month with no up front investment its cash
>     that wouldn't have been there otherwise and the knowledge is still
>     readily available.
>
>     Just my 2 cents worth or with inflation I better toss in a nickel.
>
>     Mark
>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>     From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     Date: Tue, July 21, 2009 12:28 pm
>     To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>     Hi Harry
>     Yes the 1st LITH book (was actually my 2nd book) is the MPLPC and
>     the 2nd
>     LITH book (actually my 4th book) is the WOLP.
>
>     The materials list you downloaded from my site is more up dated
>     than WOLP
>     now and I will have to update it again this fall I expect,
>     meanwhile the
>     newletters have been updating it. I can send you those if you want
>     then,
>     together with the one about to go out, you'll be bang up to date and
>     somewhat ahead in fact as the latest news in it hasn't been
>     released yet.
>
>     The WOLP is more than an update on materials though. It is the only
>     international collection of lith printers' work. As it is such a
>     flexible
>     process it can be pushed into many different 'looks' and I felt
>     that could
>     be inspirational. It also contains some newer techniques BTW.
>     Tim
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <http://email02.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose>] On Behalf
>     Of harry kalish
>     Sent: 21 July 2009 20:06
>     To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>
>     Thank you, Tim, for all the free materials.
>
>     Just to be certain, your first book is 'The Master Photographer's Lith
>     Printing Course', and the second is 'The World of Lith Printing',
>     right?
>
>     If so, I'm gonna buy the first one. And the second book has
>     essentially the
>     same updated materials info. as the FREE REPORT on your web site?
>
>     The images of lith prints that I'm seeing on-line are really very
>     special.
>     Very convincing.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Harry
>
>
>     On 7/21/09 9:51 AM, "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>     > Thank you Richard. May I appoint you as my agent? :-)
>     > The Toning book is now sold out both in UK and US editions and
>     sadly there
>     > are no plans by the publisher to reprint it (small market) so the
>     rights
>     > have reverted to me. So it's a case of second hand copies on
>     Amazon now.
>     >
>     > Harry, if you did want to pursue Lith, be aware that of my 2 lith
>     books it
>     > is the first one that is the 'how to do' book. The second updates the
>     > materials, which are constantly changing of course, and
>     introduces work
>     from
>     > others around the world in different genres and styles. I'm not
>     trying to
>     > sell to you but you can find info on www.worldoflithprinting.com
>     <http://www.worldoflithprinting.com>
>     > Also, you can download a new materials update (last Nov) from
>     > www.timrudman.com <http://www.timrudman.com> It's free to my
>     mailing list.
>     >
>     > Incidentally, there is some imminent good news for silver
>     printers:-) I'm
>     > just waiting for clearance to announce it in my newsletter which
>     hopefully
>     > will go out today or tomorrow.
>     > Tim
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
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>     > [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <http://email02.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose>] On Behalf
>     Of Richard Knoppow
>     > Sent: 21 July 2009 01:56
>     > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>     >
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: "harry kalish" <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:26 PM
>     > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: High contrast printing?
>     >
>     >
>     >> Thank you, Tim and all others for all the info. I might
>     >> have to buy the book
>     >> to get filled in on the nuances of this process.
>     >> ---Harry.
>     >>
>     > As long as you are in a book buying mood you might as
>     > well get Dr. Rudman's book on toning. Its the best available
>     > and will suggest all sorts of interesting things to try.
>     >
>     > --
>     > Richard Knoppow
>     > Los Angeles, CA, USA
>     > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     >
>     >
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