[pure-silver] Re: Grain Size
- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:32:36 -0700
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From: "Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "PureSilverNew" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Grain Size
I'm confused by a discussion in a German forum and also by
some text in
Ansell/Troup.
Does a higher developer dilution (compensated by an
extended developing
time) increase or decrease grain or granularity?
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
http://www.darkroomagic.com
Older books explain the difference in developers when
diluted as being due to salt effect, the solvent effect of
Sulfite, and pH. According to Ryuji Suzuki, these
explanations may not be completely valid. In particular, the
effect of "grain clumping" due to emulsion softening may not
be significant with modern, highly hardened, emulsions.
The effect of dilution seems to depend on the formulation
of the developer. High sulfite developers, for instance,
D-76, D-23, D-25, and others, become _more_ grainy as they
are diluted. Some relatively low sulfite developers of
relativelly high pH, such as Rodinal, become _less_ grainy
as they are diluted. The old books attribute the grain of
Rodinal and similar developers partly to grain clumping but
it must also be due to the activity of the developer and the
shape of the crystals developed from the halide. The sulfite
in high sulfite developers tends to produce filementary
crystals. Under the electron microscope these tend to look
like little bunches of steel wool. More active developers
tend to develop silver crystals that are shaped like the
halide crystals they come from. Since the actual silver
crystals are microscopic visible and printable grain are
actually due to the combination of many crystals in the
emulsion. The shape of the individual crystals evidently
affects the way they combine statistically to produce both
image and grain.
So, the answer to your question is _both_. Developers
like D-76 become _more_ grainy when diluted, Developers like
Rodinal become _less_ grainy. There are probably some
developers whose graininess is not affected by dilution.
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Ansell/Troup.
Does a higher developer dilution (compensated by an extended developing
time) increase or decrease grain or granularity?
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
http://www.darkroomagic.com
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