[pure-silver] Re: Grain

  • From: "Bob Younger" <younger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:36:24 -0800

Bob,

Until there was this need to distinguish between traditional
photographic techniques (silver, plat., pall., etc.) and
digital there was no need to emphasize grain or other
artifacts of the various techniques. In fact, we strived for
smooth, pure, rich tonal quality with exceptional (or at
least predictable) levels of detail, whether in color or
b&w. 

That you have to make your digital images look like less
than high quality 'analog' images to be marketable is
ironic. (I'm not taking into account the intentional use of
grain that many photographic artists have utilized for
various effects.)

Bob Younger

-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Randall
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:19 AM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Grain

I've been a pure silver member for a number of years and one
theme that
doesn't seem to go away is the constant complaint about
grain. Et Disco just
referred to it in response to a thread about Fuji Neopan 100
SS. What is it
about grain that makes most of you so un-happy. It is
probably the only
element in silver based photography that keeps images from
looking like
digital capture. So, it makes me wonder why so many of you
try so hard to
find a way to eliminate it. In case you're wondering, I love
grain. I can't
get enough of it. Most of my work flow is commercial and
digital. One of the
things I work hardest at is making digital files look like
they were shot
using film. Adding grain that looks realistic is a big part
of the process.
My clients all respond positively to digital images that are
perceived
visually to be silver based. I'm genuinely curious about
this issue, so
please don't misinterpret this email as a challenge on any
level. Tell me
why grain is so bad.

Bob Randall

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