[pure-silver] Re: Grain
- From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:36:31 -0000
Hi Ralph,
I think it was more to do with the rapidly improving inkjet technology and
the considerable advantages of being able to make negs on your own desktop
with no turn around time, then if the 1st is not as required it is simple to
make another, adjust the curve or content in a matter of minutes instead of
days.
His book was updated in 2000 (or possibly 1999) but the CD brings it up to
date for current printers with some useful layer sets for different
printers, materials and processes.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DarkroomMagic
Sent: 11 January 2006 18:48
To: PureSilverNew
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
No problem. Dan Burkholder's book is a good one. I would recommend it to
anyone, doing this technique or not. However, his recent departure from
imagesetters to inkjets was (mis)guided by what he thought is an industry
trend. AFAIC, it's not the way to go.
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
http://www.darkroomagic.com
On 2006-01-11 18:29, "Lee Carmichael" <click76112@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> that is always a possibility that I would confuse those two things.
> Thanks for pointing out the problem.
>
> lee\c
>
>
> At 09:51 AM 1/11/2006, you wrote:
>> Lee
>>
>> I think you have lpi and dpi confused, but your book recommendation
>> is a good one and clarifies the math involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph W. Lambrecht
>>
>> http://www.darkroomagic.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2006-01-11 02:36, "Lee Carmichael" <click76112@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter,
>>> I would recommend that you spend some time with a phone book and
>>> look for service bureaus in you area. If I were doing this I would
>>> want to be involved with the bureau and if I had to, teach them what
>>> I want the negatives to look like. Isn't there a book out there
>>> about making digital negatives for alt printing? (Dan Burkholder
>>> http://www.danburkholder.com/Pages/main_pages/page1_main.htm book
>>> info on that page) I would get that book and study up and show it
>>> to the service bureau. They might only know how right now to make
>>> halftone negatives. That may be what you want if you can get them
>>> in the 2540 lpi and 200 dpi range. That is a pretty fine dot. Be
>>> aware that not all imagesetters can do 2540 but max out at 2400 lpi.
>>> There is some math that tells you at a certain lpi you can achieve a
>>> certain dpi. I am blanking out right now but if I think of the
>>> formula I will post that too. Good luck!
>>>
>>> lee\c
>>>
>>>
>>> At 11:26 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:
>>>> Lee Carmichael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have installed over 100 imagesetters and platesetters in my
>>>>> working life. The issue with imagesetters is when they go bad it
>>>>> costs a lot of money. They cost in the neighborhood of 35K to buy
>>>>> one of the lower end units. Imagesetters can be repaired. I
>>>>> don't totally believe Lensworks explanation. There are other
>>>>> companies that have imagesetters. This is the way negs and plates
>>>>> are made these days.
>>>>> Direct to press is starting to make some headway into the shops
>>>>> but these presses are very expensive and only handle a small
>>>>> portion of the printing that comes into the shops. There are some
>>>>> direct to plate machines but we are talking 75K for the low end of
these.
>>>>>
>>>>> lee\c
>>>>
>>>> Lee,
>>>>
>>>> That's good to hear. Can you recommend anyone for making digital
>> negatives?
>>>>
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