Dan also has a newer inkjet negative companion co on his website, which takes the book info forward to the current Epsom printers. It has curves and colourizing actions for silver & platinum for several printers. A great help Tim -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Bonavolta Sent: 11 January 2006 08:58 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Grain Dear Tim, Could you keep us informed on your future tests ? I'm pretty interested by the subject too. Unfortunately, without having enough energy/time/money to spend on it. Aside Dan Burkholder's book, there is also Mark Nelson's e-book (http://www.precisiondigitalnegatives.com), basically a procedure to calculate Photoshop curves to linearize the curve on the output paper (whatever it is). He also set up a mailing-list (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PDNPrint/) but the major activity is on alternative processes where the flaws of inkjet negatives show less. Thanks and best regards, Claudio Bonavolta http://www.bonavolta.ch ----- Message d'origine ----- De: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:38:30 -0000 Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: Grain À: "'Len Eselson'" <leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >Results are only suitable for contact printing Len, not for enlargement. > >The best I know of are: >Pictorico OHP Transparency film > >Pictorico Photo Gallery Hi-Gloss White Film - a more expensive white >glossy film that is much denser (semi-opaque) than OHP film. It holds >ink better and gives better detail and tonality for the unforgiving >nature of glossy silver prints. It can be printed through, but at the >price of greatly extended exposure times. > >Permajet Digital Transfer film - a similar transparent coated Clear >High Gloss Film and less expensive than the Pictorico above, using the >same ceramic particle technology. > >Fotospeed Digital Contact Film is also a clear gloss ceramic technology >film, slightly thinner - I will be starting tests shortly. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Len Eselson [mailto:leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: 10 January 2006 15:25 >To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim Rudman >Subject: Re: [pure-silver] Re: Grain > >Tim, >What materials did you use for your negatives made on inkjet printers ? > >I tried to make digital masks on inkjet printers for conventional >printing, and for the materials I tried, found that they had a coating >of some sort, arranged in an orderly grid, which showed up in the print >when it was enlarged (MF negs, 16X20 prints) > >I tried various materials, and printers. The best being the Epson 2200, >and Pictorico Transparancy Film but the results were not acceptable. > >Have you found a combination which allows enlargement in the range of >8-10 times ? > >Thanks > >Len Eselson > >On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:34:47 -0000, Tim Rudman wrote: > >>I have been experimenting a little with digital negatives, intended >>for silver, but also some examples with platinum. >>I joined Dan Burkholder on one of his 1 week workshops at the >>Formulary last year before giving mine there. >>I have compared image setter icefield negs and those from a number of >>inkjet printers (UK - 1290, 2100, 1400 - or I believe in the US 1280, >>2200 & 2400)and on a variety of 'negative' materials. >>The results from desktop inkjet printers are getting pretty good for >>hand coated papers now. Silver gelatine glossy is less forgiving and >>results are not bad at all and silver gelatine matt. s/matt and >>textured are good. I imagine that they will continue to improve. > >>Tim > > > > > > > >======================================================================= >====================================== >To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ====================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.