[pure-silver] Re: Grain

  • From: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:02:33 -0000

Dan also has a newer inkjet negative companion cd on his website, which
takes the book info forward to the current Epsom printers. It has curves and
colourizing actions for silver & platinum for several printers 
A great help
Tim
http://www.worldbookoflithprinting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Bonavolta
Sent: 11 January 2006 08:58
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Grain

Dear Tim,

Could you keep us informed on your future tests ?
I'm pretty interested by the subject too. Unfortunately, without having
enough energy/time/money to spend on it.

Aside Dan Burkholder's book, there is also Mark Nelson's e-book
(http://www.precisiondigitalnegatives.com), basically a procedure to
calculate Photoshop curves to linearize the curve on the output paper
(whatever it is).
He also set up a mailing-list (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PDNPrint/) but
the major activity is on alternative processes where the flaws of inkjet
negatives show less.

Thanks and best regards,
Claudio Bonavolta
http://www.bonavolta.ch

----- Message d'origine -----
De: "Tim Rudman" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:38:30 -0000
Sujet: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
À: "'Len Eselson'" <leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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>Results are only suitable for contact printing Len, not for enlargement.
>
>The best I know of are:
>Pictorico OHP Transparency film
>
>Pictorico Photo Gallery Hi-Gloss White Film - a more expensive white 
>glossy film that is much denser (semi-opaque) than OHP film. It holds 
>ink better and gives better detail and tonality for the unforgiving 
>nature of glossy silver prints. It can be printed through, but at the 
>price of greatly extended exposure times.
>
>Permajet Digital Transfer film -  a similar transparent coated Clear 
>High Gloss Film and less expensive than the Pictorico above, using the 
>same ceramic particle technology.
>
>Fotospeed Digital Contact Film is also a clear gloss ceramic technology 
>film, slightly thinner - I will be starting tests shortly.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Len Eselson [mailto:leneselson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 10 January 2006 15:25
>To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim Rudman
>Subject: Re: [pure-silver] Re: Grain
>
>Tim,
>What materials did you use for your negatives made on inkjet printers ?
>
>I tried to make digital masks on inkjet printers for conventional 
>printing, and for the materials I tried, found that they had a coating 
>of some sort, arranged in an orderly grid, which showed up in the print 
>when it was enlarged (MF negs, 16X20 prints)
>
>I tried various materials, and printers. The best being the Epson 2200, 
>and Pictorico Transparancy Film but the results were not acceptable.
>
>Have you found a combination which allows enlargement in the range of 
>8-10 times ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Len Eselson
>
>On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:34:47 -0000, Tim Rudman wrote:
>
>>I have been experimenting a little with digital negatives, intended 
>>for silver, but also some examples with platinum.
>>I joined Dan Burkholder on one of his 1 week workshops at the 
>>Formulary last year before giving mine there.
>>I have compared image setter icefield negs and those from a number of 
>>inkjet printers (UK - 1290, 2100, 1400 - or I believe in the US 1280, 
>>2200 & 2400)and on a variety of 'negative' materials.
>>The results from desktop inkjet printers are getting pretty good for 
>>hand coated papers now. Silver gelatine glossy is less forgiving and 
>>results are not bad at all and silver gelatine matt. s/matt and 
>>textured are good. I imagine that they will continue to improve.
>
>>Tim
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