[pure-silver] Re: Forte Film fiasco
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:56 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Forte Film fiasco



I cut and pasted his email below.
I have not seen nor heard of another person experiencing this, and I showed it to one of the faculty that teaches the 12 sections of beginning photo and he had not seen it before. But I will keep my ears open. The one faculty wondered if it was humidity as an issue, but that certainly wouldn't have been in Bozeman, tho he was out of state over the break. 
Chris

Hi Chris,
I forgot to mention that the batch of film that has water spots is FortePan 200, but sold under the Bergger label (200) and I bought it at B&H in New York. The kind that had pinholes was a Forte 400 label from Freestyle. I ordered a couple of rolls of lots of brands to try 
last year and both of the Fortes gave me trouble.
----- Original Message ----- From: "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:34 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Forte Film fiasco
It is exactly this kind of problem that worries me in case Kodak goes out of the film business. The technology of controlling the consistency of emulsions and coating has been very highly perfected at Kodak, perhaps also at Ilford, but not at the small companies who are making film. Kodak, in particular, has been catering to the motion picture business from its inception and that application requires extremely close control of emulsion and coating quality. The knowledge of how to accomplish this may be at least partially proprietary and I suspect expensive to do. The sort of problems I've seen described for Forte and other small brands sound just like the kinds of problems reported in the 1920's and before, maybe even worse. We are very used to having extremely reliable sensitive materials, I think Kodak and probably Fuji are still maintaining this standard, but, if these big guys get out of the film business its likely to set us back a century. Ilford is also a relatively large company but has had its share of coating problems over the last couple of decades. Ilford is head and shoulders better than makers like Forte but not IMO quite up to the Kodak or Fuji standards. 

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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