[pure-silver] Re: Film vs Digital- was: Amusing Kodak commercial
- From: "Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:27:19 +0100
Edward
Now, you are not talking about the type of photography you, I and the rest
on this list are aiming to do. This is snap shooter stuff and has little to
do with the pure-silver list.
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
http://www.darkroomagic.com
On 2006-12-31 21:00, "Edward C. Zimmermann" <edz@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Quoting "Dana H. Myers" <dana.myers@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> The local lab charges the same for a print from a negative as for a print
>> from a digital file, and, AFAIK, doesn't offer the luxury of refusing prints
>> because they're pictures one didn't intend to keep.
>
> That might be the state in the U.S.A. but in Germany processing--- once
> several times more expensive than in North America--- is now cheap.
>
> In Germany there are two BIG time labs. CeWe and Eurocolor (Fuji). They
> compete hard and processing LARGE numbers of film. Minilabs are more or
> less history.
>
> Its a highly competitive market among the drugstores and shops to get
> customers and so there is also a lot of competition on price for
> photofinishing. One chain even offers 1 cent per print (9x13cm). I mentioned
> 10 cents for the 11x13cm at DM but for 9x13cm its 5 cents. It used to be only
> 4 cents :-)
>
> Quality is actually pretty good and they even do B&W (DM used to stock Ilford
> FP-4 before the flop and now carry APX-100 at the price of 2.49 EURO per
> roll). CeWe does rollfilm too and I'd not be surprized if they'd do 4x5"
> sheet film. I've had them do 120 film for me and.. well it was cheaper than
> what I need to pay for the Fuji paper to print in my darkroom..
>
> This is the current state of things in Germany and yet.. people still sing
> that digital is cheaper mantra..
>
> The numbers show a decline in the number of prints. Some printing is indeed
> shifting to digital but most of the substitution of film for digital has
> gone from having physical artifacts (negatives, prints or whatever) to having
> a digital file. This is the real problem since beyond art our own personal
> history and heritage are documented in these "silly" snapshots that are
> vanishing as organic pigments fade (DVD and CD storage), disks fail and
> computers go puff.
>
> Digital is cheaper since the act of "photography" has for the most part become
> a process of capture and only capture. It, of course, would be even cheaper to
> just use an old reliable mechanical camera without film but there'd be the
> missing illusion of capture.. :-)
>
> The heart of the matter is.. Its the pierced anything that one can punch
> a hole into, tattoo anything one can stick a pin and some ink into, "live for
> today" culture that really screams "who cares" for memories.. only the second
> counts..
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