[pure-silver] Re: Film Still Wins ... Even Compared To Leica 18MPix
- From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:44:30 -0400
DEAR SNOOPY,
A few years ago I met LA Times (Pulitzer and Press Photog of the
Year winning) photographer Carolyn Cole. She mentioned that, at times, she
would shoot (digital) go back to the vehicle (or her room, if she had time),
Frotoshop her shots, and uplink them to satellite to go back to the head
office in LA. As you mentioned about press photography, that is where
digital shines.
CHEERS!
BOB
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Film Still Wins ... Even Compared To Leica 18MPix
Dear List,
correct me if I am wrong but for several years I am kind of getting
tired of the "film is better/worse than digital debate", flame wars and
religious debates.
They are two entirely different media each with their own pros and cons
and "suitable" applications.
I feel the biggest mistake of the digital industry was their marketing
claiming to be a film replacement. This was quickly unmasked as a
marketing lie and attracted plenty of (justified) ridicule from the film
crowd.
Instead they should have focussed on the aspects of digital where it
does score, like speed and workflow. For example a press photographer
has to get his picture to the newspaper/web site very quickly these
days, film is simply too slow a process.
As for film, to me this is like oil paints or watercolours or similar.
Colour photography did not make painting obsolete because there are some
people who like the idea of taking weeks to complete an image: they
derive a lot of joy and self-fulfilment from the PATH to the image.
Just like we "darkroom troglodytes" :-) cherish the "craft" aspects of
our work.
So there really is no need for derision and snide. It's different,
different properties and hence the choice of medium is really one of
necessity and/or taste just like it always has been.
Now: this is not to say that I am not consistently amazed of the
ignorance of the "digital consumer" who bites every new megapixel-carrot
the industry dangles in front of his/hers gadget-sated nose. The height
of this are cameras (like IIRC the Olympus E30) that simulate film grain
of your choice in the digital image to yield pictures with an "authentic
documentary look"!
For the price of the camera I can buy a LOT of film and get it processed
and I get the same "look". HURRA. Some people simply do not see the wood
for all the trees. Consumers have gone full-circle and have paid
handsomely for every step of the way! DUH!
However: it's a free market and if people choose to be stupid and follow
the other bleating marketing-sheep then thats their choice, fine. You
don't have to and I also do not.
The only "valid gripe" IMHO is that film companies are going down and it
simply is getting very diffifcult resp. expensive for us to practise our
art. Well, there is little we can do, so I guess we just have to eat the
hard cheese.
As far as the longevity of CDs etc.: indeed I own "pressed" CDs from the
80's which are now desintegrating, i.e. after 20-30 years. Some of these
are ex-catalogue and hence lost to me forever. SIGH.
Recently German TV showed a documentary about the Central Music Archives
in Berlin which has problems with storing music CDs etc. They report a
life span of about 5 years and copy everything all over the place to
make sure they do not lose things.
But look on the bright side of things: when peoples digital pictures get
destroyed in the next big EMP pulse in the atmosphere, allout
pre-emptive nuclear strike, mayhem due to financial or real earthquakes
or power failure or or or then it will be OUR images that the
archaelogists will dig out of the smoking rubble!!
Just think about this: every time you press the shutter or make a print
it is YOU and your images that will shape the historians view of this
era ! Now isn't that just WAY TO COOL to speak of ? (hush, don't tell
otherwise the digital crowd will surely think of something...:-))
So be not blase to the digital crowd! They are EMPOWERING us to be the
ones who shape history!
I bet they never thought of _that_ when they bought their new carrot :-)
HA!
Love,
Snoopy
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> http://www.imx.nl/photo/Film/page169/page169.html
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"Ceterum censeo, digitalem esse delendam"
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