[pure-silver] Re: DAMMIT Freestyle doing it again.

Tom, only that all the original Kentmere products that were made at Kentmere
are now selling from stock and as the plant has been closed they can't be
produced as an identical product on different plant using different
technology (the Ilford emulsion making and coating technology is different
and more advanced that the Kentmere one was). As these products sell out
they will become less and finally unavailable.
The question then is what products will replace them. I can't give you a
detailed answer on this yet and have been expecting to be able to release
info to my mailing list on www.timrudman.com for some months. Ilford do have
plans and have been doing R&D on this. Timetables get adjusted as plans
change and commercial pressures dictate shifting resources and attention
(that is my interpretation, not an Ilford statement). 
I had a list of new products to pass on to people on my list a while ago but
that has temporarily been withdrawn/suspended so we have to be patient. I
would anticipate news soon (and have been for some time) but Ilford are
rightly being very secretive about possible new lines until they are
confident they will be launched.
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Kershaw
Sent: 24 April 2009 19:34
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: DAMMIT Freestyle doing it again.

Tim,

Do you have any idea or information on whether Kentmere Bromide has been 
discontinued? Efforts to extract an answer via APUG have not yet 
resulted in any statements.

Tom.

Tim Rudman wrote:
> This is not a Freestyle problem at all Denis. 
> Kentmere was bought out by Ilford and the Kentmere plant closed. Future
> Kentmere products will be made at the Ilford plant but cannot be the same
> for many reasons. 
> The Kentmere stock is now running out, sad but true. 
> I know that work is going on with regards to future products but details
are
> still under wraps.
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Purdy
> Sent: 24 April 2009 18:58
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] DAMMIT Freestyle doing it again.
>
> The thing that bothers me about using Freestyle re boxed paper is  
> that every time I turn around they change things.  In the new catalog  
> you notice at the bottom of the Arista page,  in red font, "Limited  
> Quantities of Arista II paper in stock".  So I called in and sure  
> enough they are discontinuing the Arista II line!! Then the sales gal  
> says, "but as you know it was made by Kentmere and we are going to  
> continue carrying Kentmere so you can buy that".  Now I am getting  
> suspicious that was the plan all along to get people used to the  
> Kentmere at a cheaper price and then yank the cheaper price out.   
> They have something new coming in to take it's place in August but  
> she won't tell what it is or who it is made by.
>
> So anyway if you are a big user of the Arista II, like me, you better  
> place an order soon.  There are only 2 boxes of 16x20 left and not  
> all that much 8x10 left either.  Sounds like they have quite a lot of  
> the 11x14 left.
>
> Also unbeknownst to me is the fact that Oriental has reformulated the  
> VC FB warmtone and now it is supposedly yellower.  Why would they do  
> that?
> Done with my rant.
>
> Dennis Purdy
>
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