[pure-silver] Re: Chemical subsitution

DEAR RICHARD,
        But this doesn't answer my question: Sodium Citrate was mentioned
instead of Citric Acid.  Was that Doug or you mentioning Sodium Citrate in
Hypo Clear as you have made the point that Sodium Citrate is NOT mentioned
in the patent but citric acid is.  
                CHEERS!
                        BOB

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:56 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Chemical subsitution


> DEAR RICHARD,
>
>      Well, as we say in Barbados, now I con-FUSED!  In 
> your e-mail below
> (was that your info or Doug Nishimura's info?) where it 
> states that Hypo
> Clear is mostly sulfite and metabisulfite, it also states 
> that, "Kodak has
> added a small amount of sodium citrate and tetra-sodium 
> EDTA to bind-up
> unwanted metal ions effectively".  Hmmmmmmmmm, is Doug 
> wrong in his
> assessment that there is sodium citrate in hypo clear 
> instead of the citric
> acid that you cited from the patent info?  Please advise.
>
>            CHEERS!
>
>                  BOB
>
>     I am not sure where I got this originally but I found
>
> this searching rec.photo.darkroom using Google groups
>
> search.

    The above is me speaking....
    The copies message from Doug Nishimura starts here:
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> Hypo clearing agent is mainly a mixture of sodium sulfite
>
> and sodium
>
> metabisulfite. The metabisulfite behaves very much like
>
> sodium bisulfite (as the
>
> Merck index says, "The bisulfite of commerce consists
> fixer and Kodak Fixer are a similar pair.
>
>
>
>
> -Doug
>
> Douglas Nishimura
>
> Research Scientist
>
> Image Permanence Institute
>
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   And ends here with his signature.
   Most of message snipped...
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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