[pure-silver] Re: Building sink again
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- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:30:23 -0800
My sinks are 5" deep 34"wide 9' long and 8"deep 34" wide 8' long. Both
sink are 44" high from the floor mat. I stand 6'4". They are fabricated
out of stainless steel, and sit in level adjustable cabinets I
constructed. The faucets are just with in my reach. I have found the
width ideal because my developer and fixer trays sit in larger water
bath trays. The 8" deep sink was designed for the Jobo processor, and
16x20 print washer heights. The sink back constructed out of plywood
serves as the mount for the water valves, and temp controllers,
electrical outlets, clock mounts, and dimmable sink lighting. This back
is also the duct for the room exhaust with a slot running the length of
and just above the sink, and a smaller slot near head level. The
filtered air inlet slot runs the length of a ceiling light soffit on the
opposite wall. The exhaust fans are adjustable from 200 to 1750 CFM
On the left end wall is the electrical inlet. GFI protected master shut
off for the dark room with separate sub switches for the wet and dry
side. There is a single ceiling light switch by the entrance door which
is not on the master circuit. This switch system shut downs the dark
room quickly.
Under the sinks in the cabinets are drawers, and shelf storage for
trays, silver recover system, air compressor, etc. At the end of the
sink line are the paper, and film drying cabinets.
The water systems I constructed have shut off valves, filters, and
pressure reducers under the sink. Each sink has its own temp regulating
valve and 3 valve distribution manifolds so that the film and paper
washers remain connected to the water system. Also there is an
additional single outlet hot & cold faucet with thermometer so that I
don't have to readjust the temp controller.
All non disposable chemicals are collected for off site disposal. I use
a 6" funnel which sits in the large sink drain so that I can dump
disposables thereby reducing contamination in the sinks.
I must admit that is does not have to be this elaborate, but is sure
makes it nice, and it was fun to design and build.
Jonathan Ayers
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[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thorns
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 AM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Building sink again
Put ergonomics first in designing this sink/darkroom area.
When you buy a camera, the way it handles and
feels in your hand is VERY important to how you
relate to it later.
A darkroom isn't any different.
Try leaning on a few countertops and maybe stack
a few phone books on top, if the top seems to
low. Now just stay there for a few minutes,
leaning, and see if this is something you could
do comfortably a thousand times. Same for the
faucets - are they within easy reach? Same for
anything you would interact with many times in
the course of a printing session. If it seems 'a
little inconvenient' when you are just doing a
test run on various sinks, imagine what a PITA it
will be after you've had that thought a hundred
times.
BTW, I too have a commercial ABS sink, 5" deep,
with an 11" well at the end. I am sooo glad I got
the one with the well - makes clean-up so much
easier.
>I know several people have suggested having
>sinks that are 8 inches deepŠ.. I have a
>commercial ( $149) ABS sink that is around 5
>deep and I think it has advantages at that
>height. #1.. if the sink is 8 inches deep, you
>have to reach DOWN 8 inches to reach the bottom
>and do anything. Are your arms long enough?
>Do you have a bad back that pains you if you
>have to reach down for long periods of time?
>Why not make the plywood sides 8 inches, TRY IT
>OUT DRY, un nailed, and un painted, then adjust
>as needed???
>
>The way I use my sink is to use the top lip as a
>leaning bar, and my wrists and arms reach in and
>slightly down to get to the trays. If the drop
>to the bottom of the sink is too much. I would
>need to reach down too much and makes my back
>sore.
>
>You are worried about splashing over the lip and
>onto the floor? Even 3-4 inches is enough to
>protect against that. The water does not splash
>up very easilyŠ. It splashes out and down.
>
>Cutting down a too high sink should prove funŠŠ
>I can not imagine trying this with a saw (
>circular, skil, table, reciprocating or hand.)
> You will get rough edges that will make you
>miserable. Best make it right the first timeŠ..
>
>It is your sink, so make it your wayŠ. But too deep is not my
recommendationŠŠ
>
>Frank Filippone
>red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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