[pure-silver] Re: Arista EDU Ultra

Well with two different reports, it simply can't be ignored as a possibility, 
especially when you consider the relatively small sample size.  Yet going 
totally water may not be my solution.  Instead I am like many people in that if 
one pill cures you, two must cure you twice as fast.

The reverse can also be true.  If X is causing a problem, get rid of it all.  
Instead of totally eliminating the acid stop bath, I think I am going to try 
reducing the strength by about 50% and see what happens.  It should help stop 
the development with a far reduced risk of pinholes.

I could use and will use a water stop bath, and frankly I wonder just how much 
continued development actually occurs in a solution that has very little 
developer left.

I also wonder just how far I would need to dilute the stop so that it goes into 
a developing tank good, and when it comes out the indicator says its spent and 
just use it once.  It probably would be far weaker than I expect.

I tend to belong to more of the TLAR school of photography.  For me its more 
intuitive and less technical.  What's the TLAR school of photography???  It 
stands for "That Looks About Right".

Still for $2 a roll, if its even remotely serviceable, there is a place for it 
in my work.  Maybe not a large place, but a place none the less.  

I am curious also to see how this film scans.    


--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Tim Daneliuk <tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Arista EDU Ultra
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 1:56 PM
> Mark Blackwell wrote:
> > Janet how strong was your stop bath???
> 
> I had a similar thought when I read this. I *never* use an
> active stop
> bath for film. Developers are alkaline, stop baths are acid
> - that's
> why they stop the development. It is, however, possible to
> get
> pinholing when the emulsion moves from the alkali to acid
> environments.
> 
> I long ago switched to a running water "stop
> bath" for all film
> processing. Development does not stop instantly, but that
> just gets
> factored into the overall personal ASA/development times
> I've come up
> with per the usual zone system calibration.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Janet Cull
> <jcull@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Janet Cull <jcull@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Arista EDU Ultra
> >> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 12:34 PM
> >>>>  Anyone ever use this film?    What did
> you like or
> >> dislike?
> >>
> >> I tried it and ended up with images I would have
> liked to
> >> print, but  
> >> with tiny holes in the emulsion.  Not good!
> >>
> >>
> >>
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