Hi Lloyd, I have a 8x10 Color Canoe which I use whenever I only need to make a print or two. Wish I could find an 11x14 (I know they made them). They are very convenient for this purpose. I use either MQ or PQ print developers, a water rinse, and non-hardening fixer. I've dunked my hands in these solutions for 50 years without any harm. Mostly use tongs but occasionally my fingers. Don't mind the smell of stopbath or fixer. Compared to what I used to smell in a chem lab they are very mild. Anyone familiar with the stench of pyridine -- smells like the vapors of Hell. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lloyd Erlick Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:11 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: After sinks, your favourite tongs? At 09:07 AM 7/26/2005 , Jerry wrote: >To remove the smell of fixer from your hands just pour some 3% hydrogen >peroxide in your hand and rub them together for a few seconds, then >rinse with water. > >Jerry > July 28, 2005, from Lloyd Erlick, Can I be the only one using single-tray print processing? I don't use tongs, gloves, squeegees, or anything at all that touches the wet face of any of my prints. My skin exposure to chemicals is close to nil. I don't claim nil because I'm not perfect and sometimes I slosh the tray a bit too much, so a drop flies out. But if one tried, I'm sure it would be possible to not only have absolutely no chemical exposure, but not to even wet (plain or tap water, that is ...) one's hands or fingers. This last might be hard to achieve; after thoroughly rinsing my print at the end of its process, I lift it from the tray by fingers at a corner and carry to the washer, so critics might say my technique is not quite perfect. Still, my hands never get wet and strictly speaking I don't need to wash them much, although I do anyway, old horse that I seem to be. Single-tray work has many advantages. A few years ago I went on a rampage to eliminate smells I did not like from my darkroom. Between the "innovations" of single-tray print making, and the removal of any type of acid from my darkroom, I now work in complete olfactory and respiratory comfort, and produce work much more easily and quickly than I did when I had to slug around all those trays. For an ordinary, black and white darkroom used for the 'regular' processes of film and paper, there is no need whatever of bad smells (there are good smells, though. I actually like the mild odor of sodium thiosulfate in solution by itself.) There is also no need of any type of chemical exposure of any sort; the darkroom can be completely safe, and very easily made safe. Doing so also will not detract from the pleasure of working in the darkroom, or add difficulty to what we want to do. When comfort rises, so does productivity. I've pontificated at even greater length on this subject on my wesite. regards, --le ________________________________ Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. voice: 416-686-0326 email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx net: www.heylloyd.com ________________________________ -- ======================================================================== ===================================== To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.