[pskmail] Re: Help me to understand
- From: Robert Krasowski <rkrasowski@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:30:03 -0800 (PST)
Thanks John, great explanation, I checked fldigi setting, seems to be as per
manual (from pskmail.org side for version 1.0.34 - is that the newest one?). i
will install tomorrow ver 1.5 and see the results.
By any chance where can I get info about server "logic", what you just
explained, when mode is downgraded, when upgraded, what the s2n level must be
etc. that is very helpful.
Thanks again,
Happy New Year
Robert
KB2PNM
--- On Fri, 12/30/11, John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [pskmail] Re: Help me to understand
To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, December 30, 2011, 9:14 PM
Hi Robert,
Please see my answers next to your questions below.
All normal, except the symmetric connections when it seems RSIDs are decoded
properly (see my comments below).
Best regards,
John (VK2ETA)
On Dec 31, 2011 10:10 AM, "Robert Krasowski" <rkrasowski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
> like always, some questions. I have 3 stations connecting today to my server.
> None of them as far as I can see was able to exchange emails. Please help me
> to understand what is the problem. Here we go below is a log from my server.
> Also, version 1.5 - from I understand the only change made was blocking
> PSK500 on US side, or anything else?
[The mail count = -1 means that the server cannot get that call sign's email
list. Most likely because that call sign does not have his email records on
your server. He needs to do an "update server" first]
> Here is log:
>
> 23:53 UTC Dec-30-2011: Connected to OE5RTL-1
>
> Stationname =OE5RTL-1
>
> Mail count =-1
>
> ::
>
> KB2PNM 1.4.16-23:53:22-IM212>
>
> Cannot find any mail
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to PSK250R
>
> 23:53 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 68.3 , averaged: 70.1976556193444
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 73.5716325723815
>
> TX=PSK250R , RX=default , T=0 LQ=2 BL=6
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to PSK250R
>
> 23:53 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 58.2 , averaged: 66.1984370795629
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 82.3810883815877
>
> TX=PSK250R , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=6
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to PSK250R
>
> 23:54 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 80.3 , averaged: 70.898958053042
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 88.2540589210585
>
> Try Turbo upgrade of TX mode
>
> TX=PSK250R , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=6
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to PSK250R
>
> 3 Sending poll with havesoh: -1, maxidle: 12.6050410866737, Shortidle:
> 9.18733310699463, currentidle: 13
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to MFSK32
>
>
> why there is a deterioration of mode to MFSK, nothing received from client?
> is that the reason?
[Yes, in the absence of reply to its polls, the server will alternatively
downgrade its TX and RX modes until it gets a reply from the client. Here we
have two successive misses hence the downgrade to MFSK32 then THOR22. You will
notice that there is a re-upgrade to MFSK32 as well after the receipt of a good
reply from the client (just before closing the connection).
Note that the connections you had are in what we call symmetric mode meaning
that the RX and TX modes are always the same. That normally happens when the
server's Fldigi does not decode an RSID just before the connect request. We
therefore assume we have an old client that does not know about asymmetric
modes.
But in your case the server does not seem to respond to the RSID and assumes
non asymmetric mode. This is not major but we need to understand why. This is
visible by the "final connect status: asymmetric link: 0" information from the
log.
I would check that in the Fldigi preferences you have the ID settings as per
the Pskmail manual. Otherwise it could be a bug. Let's see if you have the same
issue with 1.5.
The mode down/upgrade works well otherwise.]
>
>
> 4 Sending poll with havesoh: 0, maxidle: 12.6050410866737, Shortidle:
> 9.18733310699463, currentidle: 10
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> 23:55 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 78.2 , averaged: 73.332638702028
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 92.169372614039
>
> Try Turbo upgrade of TX mode
>
> TX=THOR22 , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=6
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> 23:55 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 82.2217591346853
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 94.7795817426927
>
> Try Turbo upgrade of TX mode
>
>
> here we have good s2n at both ends and still Thor22, why??
[In symmetric mode we need both averages to be above 85 (from memory) to
perform an upgrade. See the next exchange with re-upgrade to MFSK32.
In asymmetric mode the TX and RX modes are manages separately. ]
>
>
> TX=THOR22 , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=6
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> 23:55 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 88.1478394231236
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 96.5197211617951
>
> Try Turbo upgrade of TX mode
>
> TX=THOR22 , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=6
>
> Up-speed to TX:MFSK32 , RX: default
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to MFSK32
>
> 8 Sending poll with havesoh: 0, maxidle: 23.4883049825827, Shortidle:
> 13.4344604810079, currentidle: 14
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> 23:56 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=1 end=1 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 97.2 , averaged: 91.1652262820824
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 66.6666666666667
>
> TX=THOR22 , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=5
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> Disconnected
>
> 23:56 UTC Dec-30-2011:
>
> Listening to the radio
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to THOR22
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to PSK250
>
> I: apply: RSID: PSK250R @ 1017 Hz
>
> 23:57 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Connect: OE5RTL-1:1024 KB2PNM:24 5
>
> Final connect status: Asymmetric link:0 , tx mode: PSK250R , rx mode: default
>
> 23:57 UTC Dec-30-2011: Added OE5RTL-1 to link list
>
> OE5RTL-1->KB2PNM
>
> 23:57 UTC Dec-30-2011: Send>APRS-IS:KB2PNM>PSKAPR,TCPIP*::PSKAPR :GATING
> OE5RTL-1
>
> I: ParseMode: ARQ new modem set to PSK250R
>
> MAXIDLE=13.3804406979505
>
> 23:57 UTC Dec-30-2011: > Status : last=0 good=0 end=0 missing=
>
> Server's rx s2n: 89.7 , averaged: 90.6768175213883
>
> Client's rx s2n: 100 , averaged: 77.7777777777778
>
> TX=PSK250R , RX=default , T=0 LQ=0 BL=5
>
> OK, Status received
>
> ~ABORTSEND
>
> 23:57 UTC Dec-30-2011: Call OE5RTL-1 o.k.
>
> 23:57 UTC Dec-30-2011: Connected to OE5RTL-1
>
> Stationname =OE5RTL-1
>
> Mail count =-1
>
> ::
>
> KB2PNM 1.4.16-23:57:41-IM361>
>
> Cannot find any mail
>
>
> I will ( if I have time tomorrow ) upgrade my server to 1.5, what I have now
> is the last version before 1.5 - the one with patch for US.
>
> Best regards
> Robert KB2PNM
>
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